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As a follow on to Jay's previous post, has anyone attempted an "easy" or
"obvious" repair project, only to do something that really screwed up the job and made it more expensive or time consuming to recover? |
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Viperdoc wrote:
As a follow on to Jay's previous post, has anyone attempted an "easy" or "obvious" repair project, only to do something that really screwed up the job and made it more expensive or time consuming to recover? Well...not (yet) in aviation...but I'm sure my turn will come. If the topic was expanded to home or auto repair, YES!!! :-) -- Jack Allison PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane "To become a Jedi knight, you must master a single force. To become a private pilot you must strive to master four of them" - Rod Machado (Remove the obvious from address to reply via e-mail) |
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On Oct 27, 8:25 am, "Viperdoc" wrote:
As a follow on to Jay's previous post, has anyone attempted an "easy" or "obvious" repair project, only to do something that really screwed up the job and made it more expensive or time consuming to recover? Many times. That "something" was to take it to a mechanic. It always takes longer and almost always more expensive. -Robert |
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As a follow on to Jay's previous post, has anyone attempted an "easy" or
"obvious" repair project, only to do something that really screwed up the job and made it more expensive or time consuming to recover? I am coining a new law, and -- since I've not seen it mentioned anywhere -- I'm giving it my own moniker, "Honeck's Law". Honeck's Law dictates that "Any work done under any aircraft panel shall result in the need for further work to be done under the panel." As this dictum is self-sustaining, the avionics industry has a bright future. In my particular recent case, the installation of the Pulsar and reinstallation of my repaired EDM-700 meant moving wires out of the way in order to drop down a bank of switches behind the panel. This obviously disturbed things, as it always does (see Honeck's Law) because now my right main fuel indicator is reading "Empty" all the time. I have never, ever, EVER had work done under the panel that did not result in the need for further work.... -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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("Jay Honeck" wrote)
Honeck's Law dictates that "Any work done under any aircraft panel shall result in the need for further [UNRELATED] work to be done under the panel." Montblack |
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Honeck's Law dictates that "Any work done under any aircraft panel shall
result in the need for further [UNRELATED] work to be done under the panel." A good caveat, although it's not necessarily unrelated. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Weir's Corrolary to Honeck's Law:
"If you've got an airplane more than twenty years old, gut the wiring and start from scratch." In the case of a blueonblue182 that last saw the inside of a Wichita aluminum tinkerhouse in 1958, the wiring was the original double-cotton covered wire that cracked and split at the slightest touch. Fortunately (or not, your call) the airplane was a total wreck salvaged (literally) from a chicken ranch in the California central valley. It needed gutting anyway. If you are going to do it, take a tip from Boeing. Get yourself several DOZEN terminal strips http://www.radioshack.com/search/ind...w=274-670&sr=1 and a couple of large sheets (or a few small sheets) of relatively thin (0.025 or so) aluminum. Mount the terminal strips on the aluminum and mount the aluminum "conveniently" under the panel where each of the terminal strips is accessible. NO wire goes from point A to point B without stopping by one of the terminal strips. Go down to Wichita to one of the surplus houses and buy a few rolls of #18 and #22 aircraft wire. If you can talk your aircraft fixer into it, get a few rolls of MIL-W-16878 (#24, the small thin PVC colored stuff) and use it for all half-an-amp or less wiring. You'd be surprised at the weight savings PLUS the capability of color-coding the wire. Buy a roll of RG-174 to use on the shielded stuff and a few feet of heavy duty shielded for the mag wiring. Boxes and boxes of crimp terminals. Wiring isn't so much an art than lots of planning and forethought followed by months of dangling upside down in your machine. Excel (or even better, Access) is your friend in the planning process. Tip ... Sharpie indelible pens come in all the 8 colors of the RETMA color code ... (black, brown, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, violet, and gray, less white). The "aircraft wire" will almost universally be white. Gin yourself up a logical color scheme (fuel is the 200 series, lights are the 300 series, and so on) and mark both ends of the same wire with the wire number ... hint, a double black mark shows you which stripe is the first digit ... and then a clear shrink-sleeve over the markings will number the wire for the next fifty years or so. Use gray sparingly...on white wire it is nearly invisible. All this stuff is in a Kitplanes series that I started nearly 12 years ago but were done before I started putting them up on my website. Perhaps an update in next year's KP is in order. Jim -- "If you think you can, or think you can't, you're right." --Henry Ford "Jay Honeck" wrote in message ups.com... As a follow on to Jay's previous post, has anyone attempted an "easy" or "obvious" repair project, only to do something that really screwed up the job and made it more expensive or time consuming to recover? I am coining a new law, and -- since I've not seen it mentioned anywhere -- I'm giving it my own moniker, "Honeck's Law". Honeck's Law dictates that "Any work done under any aircraft panel shall result in the need for further work to be done under the panel." |
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I agree with Honeck's Law and believe it is a corrolary to Wright's Law,
which is: "Any work done on an aircraft shall result in the need for further work to be done on the aircraft." Jon "Jay Honeck" wrote in message ups.com... As a follow on to Jay's previous post, has anyone attempted an "easy" or "obvious" repair project, only to do something that really screwed up the job and made it more expensive or time consuming to recover? I am coining a new law, and -- since I've not seen it mentioned anywhere -- I'm giving it my own moniker, "Honeck's Law". Honeck's Law dictates that "Any work done under any aircraft panel shall result in the need for further work to be done under the panel." As this dictum is self-sustaining, the avionics industry has a bright future. In my particular recent case, the installation of the Pulsar and reinstallation of my repaired EDM-700 meant moving wires out of the way in order to drop down a bank of switches behind the panel. This obviously disturbed things, as it always does (see Honeck's Law) because now my right main fuel indicator is reading "Empty" all the time. I have never, ever, EVER had work done under the panel that did not result in the need for further work.... -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Jay Honeck writes:
I have never, ever, EVER had work done under the panel that did not result in the need for further work.... Hence my dream to move as much as possible out of there. Icom/Kenwood/etc make 2mtr ARS/VHF commercial radios with a detachable ~0.5" thick panel, and simple connecting cable. I'd make it a fiber, and move the bigger boxes to under the rear seat where cooling and access are both easy. Little box with mike/earphone jacks going back there. Then some instruments as well; LCD/glasspanel. That leaves lots of room for the backup, deep ASI/AH/whatever. Then I wake up and realize: these are the folks with external regulators on their generators....and magneto ignitions. -- A host is a host from coast to & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433 |
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Hence my dream to move as much as possible out of there.
Icom/Kenwood/etc make 2mtr ARS/VHF commercial radios with a detachable ~0.5" thick panel, and simple connecting cable. I'd make it a fiber, and move the bigger boxes to under the rear seat where cooling and access are both easy. Little box with mike/earphone jacks going back there. Not exactly a new idea. Most WWII aircraft radios had a control box and a remotely-mounted main chassis. My first airplane had a Narco Omnigator "coffee grinder" with that arrangement. The remote part too up a fair percentage of the baggage compartment. It sort of worked, but you had to speed up the engine (and stand on the brakes) on the ground so the generator would kick in and bring the voltage up to where the transmitter would work. I don't miss it. BTW: it had vacuum tubes and a vibrator power supply. Anyone remember those? David Johnson |
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