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![]() The B2/PR9 Canberra? (FF 1949, entered service 1951, still in service?) Regards... |
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"Bjørnar Bolsøy" wrote in message
... The B2/PR9 Canberra? (FF 1949, entered service 1951, still in service?) Regards... Beaten easily by the C-47 Cheers Dave Kearton |
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Beaten easily by the C-47
and a close 2nd, the T-6/SNJ/Harvard 1938-1995 Matt Gunsch, A&P,IA,Private Pilot Riding member of the 2003 world champion drill team Arizona Precision Motorcycle Drill Team GWRRA,NRA,GOA |
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Beaten easily by the C-47 and a close 2nd, the T-6/SNJ/Harvard 1938-1995 Matt Gunsch, A&P,IA,Private Pilot Riding member of the 2003 world champion drill team Arizona Precision Motorcycle Drill Team GWRRA,NRA,GOA I think we agreed last time that the longest OPERATIONAL jet was the Lockheed T-33 - which just beat the Canberra by a couple of years. As for the C-47 - I think the SAAF still operates them ?? Anyone still using the T-6 operationally (as opposed to warbirds/private) ?? You have to be very precise with your definition - by 'service career' do you mean with a military arm ?? or in service with an airline or serving with some organisation. For example the T-6 is still 'serving' with the CAF - and I think one is still used (in service) by the RAE at Boscombe Down as a chase plane. But would they count as still having a 'service career' ?? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++ Ken Duffey - Flanker Freak & Russian Aviation Enthusiast Flankers Website - http://www.flankers.co.uk/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++ |
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![]() "Ken Duffey" For example the T-6 is still 'serving' with the CAF - and I think one is still used (in service) by the RAE at Boscombe Down as a chase plane. Ken: I know the motto of the CAF is, "We fly old crates", but I think the T-6 Harvard is long retired unless it has been resurrected as our first line interceptor. ;-) With budget cut backs, that may be a possibility! The primary trainer is the CT-156 Harvard II which is definitely not the T-6! The CL-41 Tutor has been replaced by the CT-155 Hawk jet trainer. The Snowbird air demonstration team still fly the Tutor but they need replacement. Basic flying training is now done by a civilian contractor, Bombardier Ltd out of CFB Moose Jaw, Sask. Another result of trying to cut costs! Ed RCAF/CAF retired. |
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"Ed Majden" wrote:
"Ken Duffey" For example the T-6 is still 'serving' with the CAF - and I think one is still used (in service) by the RAE at Boscombe Down as a chase plane. Ken: I know the motto of the CAF is, "We fly old crates", but I think the T-6 Harvard is long retired unless it has been resurrected as our first line interceptor. ;-) With budget cut backs, that may be a possibility! The primary trainer is the CT-156 Harvard II which is definitely not the T-6! The CL-41 Tutor has been replaced by the CT-155 Hawk jet trainer. The Snowbird air demonstration team still fly the Tutor but they need replacement. Basic flying training is now done by a civilian contractor, Bombardier Ltd out of CFB Moose Jaw, Sask. Another result of trying to cut costs! Ed RCAF/CAF retired. Ed, I suspect that Ken is referring to the Confederate Air Force vice Canadian Armed Forces. Yes? -- -Gord. |
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"Ken Duffey" For example the T-6 is still 'serving' with the CAF - and I think one is still used (in service) by the RAE at Boscombe Down as a chase plane. Ken: I know the motto of the CAF is, "We fly old crates", but I think the T-6 Harvard is long retired unless it has been resurrected as our first line interceptor. ;-) With budget cut backs, that may be a possibility! The primary trainer is the CT-156 Harvard II which is definitely not the T-6! The CL-41 Tutor has been replaced by the CT-155 Hawk jet trainer. The Snowbird air demonstration team still fly the Tutor but they need replacement. Basic flying training is now done by a civilian contractor, Bombardier Ltd out of CFB Moose Jaw, Sask. Another result of trying to cut costs! Ed RCAF/CAF retired. Ooops! Sorry - by CAF - I meant the Commemorative (formerly Confederate) Air Force !!!! I was trying to point out the difficulty of defining the word 'service'. Best wishes Ken ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++ Ken Duffey - Flanker Freak & Russian Aviation Enthusiast Flankers Website - http://www.flankers.co.uk/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++ |
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Ken Duffey wrote in
: I think we agreed last time that the longest OPERATIONAL jet was the Lockheed T-33 - which just beat the Canberra by a couple of years. Sure looks like the CAF had them going until last year or so: http://www.airforce.forces.ca/equip/equip1g_e.htm You have to be very precise with your definition - by 'service career' do you mean with a military arm ?? or in service with an airline or serving with some organisation. For example the T-6 is still 'serving' with the CAF - and I think one is still used (in service) by the RAE at Boscombe Down as a chase plane. But would they count as still having a 'service career' ?? Both yes and no I guess, though my thought was "operational" in that it has some sort of tactical role in an airforce. Regards... |
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"Bjørnar Bolsøy" wrote in message ...
Ken Duffey wrote in : I think we agreed last time that the longest OPERATIONAL jet was the Lockheed T-33 - which just beat the Canberra by a couple of years. Sure looks like the CAF had them going until last year or so: http://www.airforce.forces.ca/equip/equip1g_e.htm You have to be very precise with your definition - by 'service career' do you mean with a military arm ?? or in service with an airline or serving with some organisation. For example the T-6 is still 'serving' with the CAF - and I think one is still used (in service) by the RAE at Boscombe Down as a chase plane. But would they count as still having a 'service career' ?? Both yes and no I guess, though my thought was "operational" in that it has some sort of tactical role in an airforce. Regards... Hi I am a pilot based at 4 Wing Cold Lake in Alberta. This wing still flies the T-33, which should clear up some of your differences of opinion. |
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Ken Duffey wrote: N329DF wrote: Beaten easily by the C-47 and a close 2nd, the T-6/SNJ/Harvard 1938-1995 I think we agreed last time that the longest OPERATIONAL jet was the Lockheed T-33 - which just beat the Canberra by a couple of years. Canberra's still in service, and not showing any likelyhood of going away soon, so it is still working its way up the list. There's also the one Meteor still in use - Martin-Baker's "T8" hybrid (F8 wings and engines, T7 fuselage IIRC), so you could, at a pinch, claim that the Gloster Meteor has been in service since 1943 (and no jet *could* have been operational longer ![]() You have to be very precise with your definition - by 'service career' do you mean with a military arm ?? or in service with an airline or serving with some organisation. For example the T-6 is still 'serving' with the CAF - and I think one is still used (in service) by the RAE at Boscombe Down as a chase plane. But would they count as still having a 'service career' ?? If it's "operational, front-line military service" then the Canberra probably does win out. -- Andy Breen ~ Interplanetary Scintillation Research Group http://users.aber.ac.uk/azb/ "Time has stopped, says the Black Lion clock and eternity has begun" (Dylan Thomas) |
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