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What are the aerodynamic implications of prop rotation on a twin? I was reading an article about the development of the P38, and apparently they changed the prop rotation from "inwards" to "outwards" - why? Is this a standard rotation on twin engine planes now?
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Chris Wells wrote in
: I'm reading some articles on aircraft lighgtning strikes, and most mention an incident in 1967 when an airplane was brought down by lightning; however I can't find info on this crash. Can anyone tell me when & where this happened? IIRC: that was a Cargo 747 over Spain Here tis.... 5) 09.05.76 () Boeing 747-131F 5-8104 (19677/73) Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force 17 fatalities / 17 occupants + Location: Madrid; nr (Spain) Natu Freight Phase: Descent from: to: Madrid-Torrejon AFB Flightnr.: ULF48 The aircraft was struck by lightning while descending through FL100 on its way to Torrejon AFB. The explosion in the no.1 fuel tank which followed caused severe damage to the left wing. 54 Seconds later the left wing failed and freighter crashed. POSSIBLE CAUSE: Ignition of fuel vapour in the ullage of the tank in the vicinity of a motor drive fuel valve. Source: FI 15.5.76(1283) 26/06/1959 Lombardia, Italy Lockheed 1549A TWA Hit by Lightning 68 dead 08/12/1963 Elkton, USA 707-121 Pan American World Airways Hit by lightning 81 dead http://dnausers.d-n-a.net/dnetGOJG/081263.htm |
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OOPS 76 not 67 sorry bout that...
http://www.airdisaster.com/cgi-bin/v...5091976®=5- 8104&airline=Iranian+Air+Force John Szalay wrote in 2: Chris Wells wrote in : I'm reading some articles on aircraft lighgtning strikes, and most mention an incident in 1967 when an airplane was brought down by lightning; however I can't find info on this crash. Can anyone tell me when & where this happened? IIRC: that was a Cargo 747 over Spain Here tis.... 5) 09.05.76 () Boeing 747-131F 5-8104 (19677/73) Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force 17 fatalities / 17 occupants + Location: Madrid; nr (Spain) Natu Freight Phase: Descent from: to: Madrid-Torrejon AFB Flightnr.: ULF48 The aircraft was struck by lightning while descending through FL100 on its way to Torrejon AFB. The explosion in the no.1 fuel tank which followed caused severe damage to the left wing. 54 Seconds later the left wing failed and freighter crashed. POSSIBLE CAUSE: Ignition of fuel vapour in the ullage of the tank in the vicinity of a motor drive fuel valve. Source: FI 15.5.76(1283) 26/06/1959 Lombardia, Italy Lockheed 1549A TWA Hit by Lightning 68 dead 08/12/1963 Elkton, USA 707-121 Pan American World Airways Hit by lightning 81 dead http://dnausers.d-n-a.net/dnetGOJG/081263.htm |
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Ooops , you said 67 not 76, my bad...
John Szalay wrote in 2: Chris Wells wrote in : I'm reading some articles on aircraft lighgtning strikes, and most mention an incident in 1967 when an airplane was brought down by lightning; however I can't find info on this crash. Can anyone tell me when & where this happened? IIRC: that was a Cargo 747 over Spain Here tis.... 5) 09.05.76 () Boeing 747-131F 5-8104 (19677/73) Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force 17 fatalities / 17 occupants + Location: Madrid; nr (Spain) Natu Freight Phase: Descent from: to: Madrid-Torrejon AFB Flightnr.: ULF48 The aircraft was struck by lightning while descending through FL100 on its way to Torrejon AFB. The explosion in the no.1 fuel tank which followed caused severe damage to the left wing. 54 Seconds later the left wing failed and freighter crashed. POSSIBLE CAUSE: Ignition of fuel vapour in the ullage of the tank in the vicinity of a motor drive fuel valve. Source: FI 15.5.76(1283) 26/06/1959 Lombardia, Italy Lockheed 1549A TWA Hit by Lightning 68 dead 08/12/1963 Elkton, USA 707-121 Pan American World Airways Hit by lightning 81 dead http://dnausers.d-n-a.net/dnetGOJG/081263.htm |
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Chris Wells wrote in
: I'm reading some articles on aircraft lighgtning strikes, and most mention an incident in 1967 when an airplane was brought down by lightning; however I can't find info on this crash. Can anyone tell me when & where this happened? All I could find, none for 67 http://www.airdisaster.com/cgi-bin/s...arch=lightning |
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Hmmm...all the articles indicate it happened in the US...I looked through the NTSB database but came up with squat.
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Also, this thread is about twin prop rotation - you want the lightning thread, not the Lightning thread
![]() I figure the way the slipstream works, outward-turning props would tend to exert an upward force on the elevator, inducing a negative pitch moment - compensating for an opposite effect from the thrust lines of the engines, maybe? |
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Chris Wells wrote in
: Hmmm...all the articles indicate it happened in the US...I looked through the NTSB database but came up with squat. Which crash ? there are numerous reports. and the NTSB reports are not complete.. there have been several crashes that seem never to make it into their database. |
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Chris Wells wrote in
: I'm reading some articles on aircraft lighgtning strikes, and most mention an incident in 1967 when an airplane was brought down by lightning; however I can't find info on this crash. Can anyone tell me when & where this happened? One case of a lightning strike on an aircraft, Spring 1947 Chuck Yeager and Bob Hoover were flying a B-25 back from the David Clark plant to Dayton after being fitted for pressure suits for the Bell X-1 flights. when they were struck by lightning, blowing away the plexiglass nose of the aircraft. Hoover was piloting at the time, but both were blinded by the flash, they had a rush of air and a smell of burning, after they recovered their sight, they continued on. But they both came close to leaving the aircraft, neither wanted to be the first to bail. What stands out funny about this incident, the David Clark plant also produced womens bras and panties so Chuck had procured several boxes for Glennis onboard, and he said of this.. "If we had gone down, the investigators would have searched our wreckage to find two fighters jocks and a ton of bras and panties" |
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