a pilot question

Hi all,

I'm a pilot. I mean for real. Like certificated. My question is, why
aren't sims worth a damn? They're cheezy and crappy. The flight models
are wrong. The radio equipment doesn't work right. The terrain isn't
photorealistic and I can't pull negative Gs. You can't do pilotage.
The dead reckoning doesn't match up with real charts. What's wrong
with those computer programming geek f0ks? Can't they get anything
right?

When will I be able to learn something from a sim?

Sims like these exist, the only problem is that they cost a few millions of
dollars.
Being a real pilot you should know that !!

writes:

I'm a pilot. I mean for real. Like certificated. My question is, why
aren't sims worth a damn? They're cheezy and crappy. The flight models
are wrong. The radio equipment doesn't work right. The terrain isn't
photorealistic and I can't pull negative Gs. You can't do pilotage.
The dead reckoning doesn't match up with real charts. What's wrong
with those computer programming geek f0ks? Can't they get anything
right?

It depends on what sim you have in mind; they are all different.

As far as desktop simulators go, a very large community of regular simmers
would disagree with you, and many of them are also "real" pilots.

When it comes to more advanced simulators, virtually none of your complaints
has any basis.

When will I be able to learn something from a sim?

Some pilots learn humility in a sim.

Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:

I'm a pilot. I mean for real. Like certificated. My question is, why
aren't sims worth a damn? They're cheezy and crappy. The flight models
are wrong. The radio equipment doesn't work right. The terrain isn't
photorealistic and I can't pull negative Gs. You can't do pilotage.
The dead reckoning doesn't match up with real charts. What's wrong
with those computer programming geek f0ks? Can't they get anything
right?

It depends on what sim you have in mind; they are all different.

As far as desktop simulators go, a very large community of regular simmers
would disagree with you, and many of them are also "real" pilots.

When it comes to more advanced simulators, virtually none of your complaints
has any basis.

When will I be able to learn something from a sim?

Some pilots learn humility in a sim.

Beautifully said, Mxsmanic.

Simulation is not reality. Live with it, and enjoy the huge value to be
obtained from a $100 simulator.

Gregg

Simulation is not reality. Live with it, and enjoy the huge value to be
obtained from a $100 simulator.

Gregg-

Entertainment value, you mean?

Not as entertaining as flying a plane.

writes:

Entertainment value, you mean?

Simulators can be a source of entertainment, but they can also be learning
tools, and diagnostic tools.

Not as entertaining as flying a plane.

That is a matter of personal opinion.

On Feb 7, 10:25*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:
Entertainment value, you mean?

Simulators can be a source of entertainment, but they can also be learning
tools, and diagnostic tools.

Not as entertaining as flying a plane.

That is a matter of personal opinion.

I've done both.

However, if you have not done both, then it is a matter over which you
can have no opinion.

Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:

Entertainment value, you mean?

Simulators can be a source of entertainment, but they can also be learning
tools, and diagnostic tools.

Not as entertaining as flying a plane.

That is a matter of personal opinion.

Gee, don't you think his name is a bit of a giveaway?

The OTHER Kevin in San Diego skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net writes:

Which has about as much excitement as watching water boil when
compared to flying a helicopter.

Perhaps the only "real" pilots are helicopter pilots.

It depends on what sim you have in mind; they are all different.

I have tried 4 or 5. They all sucked.

As far as desktop simulators go, a very large community of regular simmers
would disagree with you, and many of them are also "real" pilots.

What is a "real' pilot?

When it comes to more advanced simulators, virtually none of your complaints
has any basis.

Which advanced simulators are you referring to?

Some pilots learn humility in a sim.

I learn humility when I fly. How can you be humbled by a simulator?