Opinions wanted

I am going to outline a real situaitoin that occured during WW II. I would
like to hear opinions and solutions as to how the situation should be handled.
I will give the real solutuion that was imposed during the war after a week or
so when many opinions have been offered.

There was a large factory producing torpedo gyroscopes and timeing devices
for the German submarine service. It was located in the midst of a very
populated area where the highly skilled workers lived with their families.
These workers were near irreplaceable. It took many years to learn the needed
skills, and without these workers production and quality would have been
dramatically down graded. One more point. This factory was not in any country
with which America or England was at war. What would you have done? Remember
these German torpedoes were slaughtering American and British seamen and
denying food and arms to England. What would you have done? Opinions?




Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
...
I am going to outline a real situaitoin that occured during WW II. I
would
like to hear opinions and solutions as to how the situation should be
handled.
I will give the real solutuion that was imposed during the war after a
week or
so when many opinions have been offered.

There was a large factory producing torpedo gyroscopes and timeing
devices
for the German submarine service. It was located in the midst of a very
populated area where the highly skilled workers lived with their families.
These workers were near irreplaceable. It took many years to learn the
needed
skills, and without these workers production and quality would have been
dramatically down graded. One more point. This factory was not in any
country
with which America or England was at war. What would you have done?
Remember
these German torpedoes were slaughtering American and British seamen and
denying food and arms to England. What would you have done? Opinions?

FDR wasn't nice to the US Marshal's and that left him only the Italians,
being squeezed out of New York, for covert operations. (Clark County Ak) I
doubt there was much the US could do under FDR, in those conditions. There
was help in Sicily, but there was not the broad "invisible hand" that is
available to GW and once the founders.

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
...
I am going to outline a real situaitoin that occured during WW II. I
would
like to hear opinions and solutions as to how the situation should be
handled.
I will give the real solutuion that was imposed during the war after a
week or
so when many opinions have been offered.

There was a large factory producing torpedo gyroscopes and timeing
devices
for the German submarine service. It was located in the midst of a very
populated area where the highly skilled workers lived with their families.
These workers were near irreplaceable. It took many years to learn the
needed
skills, and without these workers production and quality would have been
dramatically down graded. One more point. This factory was not in any
country
with which America or England was at war. What would you have done?
Remember
these German torpedoes were slaughtering American and British seamen and
denying food and arms to England. What would you have done? Opinions?

I'd have offered them more for the gyros than the Germans could pay.

Matt

Subject: Opinions wanted
From: "killfile"
Date: 1/5/04 11:49 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
...
I am going to outline a real situaitoin that occured during WW II. I
would
like to hear opinions and solutions as to how the situation should be
handled.
I will give the real solutuion that was imposed during the war after a
week or
so when many opinions have been offered.

There was a large factory producing torpedo gyroscopes and timeing
devices
for the German submarine service. It was located in the midst of a very
populated area where the highly skilled workers lived with their families.
These workers were near irreplaceable. It took many years to learn the
needed
skills, and without these workers production and quality would have been
dramatically down graded. One more point. This factory was not in any
country
with which America or England was at war. What would you have done?
Remember
these German torpedoes were slaughtering American and British seamen and
denying food and arms to England. What would you have done? Opinions?

I'd have offered them more for the gyros than the Germans could pay.

Matt


Not a bad idea. (grin)


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

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(ArtKramr) writes:
Subject: Opinions wanted
From: "killfile"
Date: 1/5/04 11:49 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
...
I am going to outline a real situaitoin that occured during WW II. I
would
like to hear opinions and solutions as to how the situation should be
handled.
I will give the real solutuion that was imposed during the war after a
week or
so when many opinions have been offered.

There was a large factory producing torpedo gyroscopes and timeing
devices
for the German submarine service. It was located in the midst of a very
populated area where the highly skilled workers lived with their families.
These workers were near irreplaceable. It took many years to learn the
needed
skills, and without these workers production and quality would have been
dramatically down graded. One more point. This factory was not in any
country
with which America or England was at war. What would you have done?
Remember
these German torpedoes were slaughtering American and British seamen and
denying food and arms to England. What would you have done? Opinions?

I'd have offered them more for the gyros than the Germans could pay.

Matt


Not a bad idea. (grin)

The Allies actually did something like that. One bit of intelligence
fallout after the Schweinfurt raids was that the Germans were getting
a lot of ball bearing from Sweden. The Brits (And possibley the
U.S. as well), set up an operation to buy Swedish ball bearings and
fly them to Britain.

They were flown out a ton at a time in BOAC marked and crewed
Mosquitos.

--
Pete Stickney
A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many
bad measures. -- Daniel Webster

Would this country be Switzerland or some other Neutral by any chance? My
guess would diplomacy followed by threats then sabotage then if that failed
whoops our bombers strayed off course..

Myc


"killfile" wrote in message
...
"ArtKramr" wrote in message
...
I am going to outline a real situaitoin that occured during WW II. I
would
like to hear opinions and solutions as to how the situation should be
handled.
I will give the real solutuion that was imposed during the war after a
week or
so when many opinions have been offered.

There was a large factory producing torpedo gyroscopes and timeing
devices
for the German submarine service. It was located in the midst of a
very
populated area where the highly skilled workers lived with their
families.
These workers were near irreplaceable. It took many years to learn the
needed
skills, and without these workers production and quality would have
been
dramatically down graded. One more point. This factory was not in any
country
with which America or England was at war. What would you have done?
Remember
these German torpedoes were slaughtering American and British seamen
and
denying food and arms to England. What would you have done? Opinions?

I'd have offered them more for the gyros than the Germans could pay.

Matt

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
...
I am going to outline a real situaitoin that occured during WW II. I
would
like to hear opinions and solutions as to how the situation should be
handled.
I will give the real solutuion that was imposed during the war after a
week or
so when many opinions have been offered.
snip

First off, the neutrality of the country should be questioned diplomatically
and openly if it is knowingly supplying war equipment to a hostile
government on either side. If the country refuses to stop the sales then
maybe it could be persuaded to re-tool to produce equipment for the
"friendly" powers, sanctions be put in place, supply lines targetted
exitting the country, or war declared as a last resort. Either way,
neutrality is forfeit if production continues.

You don't have to go too far to see this situation being played out all over
the world. Western governments (and the former USSR) routinely supply
weapons or components to countries engaged in hostilities with which they
themselves are not.

Si

On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 20:47:14 -0000, "Simon Robbins"
wrote:


First off, the neutrality of the country should be questioned diplomatically
and openly if it is knowingly supplying war equipment to a hostile
government on either side.

Neutral status does not preclude the trade with the belligerents.
Neutral country can freely choose with whom it is going to trade.


Drax
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On 05 Jan 2004 18:22:15 GMT, (ArtKramr) wrote:

I am going to outline a real situaitoin that occured during WW II. I would
like to hear opinions and solutions as to how the situation should be handled.
I will give the real solutuion that was imposed during the war after a week or
so when many opinions have been offered.

There was a large factory producing torpedo gyroscopes and timeing devices
for the German submarine service. It was located in the midst of a very
populated area where the highly skilled workers lived with their families.
These workers were near irreplaceable. It took many years to learn the needed
skills, and without these workers production and quality would have been
dramatically down graded. One more point. This factory was not in any country
with which America or England was at war. What would you have done? Remember
these German torpedoes were slaughtering American and British seamen and
denying food and arms to England. What would you have done? Opinions?




Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

Well, first I would tell them to stop supplying the Nazis, and if they did not
I would declare war on them. Followed quickly by an aluminum overcast.

The fact that civilians lived in the area should have influence their
decision to maintain production, it should not be a factor
in the decision to eliminate the plant.

Al Minyard

ArtKramr wrote:
There was a large factory producing torpedo gyroscopes and timeing
devices for the German submarine service. It was located in the
midst of a very populated area where the highly skilled workers lived
with their families. These workers were near irreplaceable. It took
many years to learn the needed skills, and without these workers
production and quality would have been dramatically down graded. One
more point. This factory was not in any country with which America or
England was at war. What would you have done? Remember these German
torpedoes were slaughtering American and British seamen and denying
food and arms to England. What would you have done? Opinions?


Sabotage.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN


http://www.mortimerschnerd.com