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Old March 28th 08, 05:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ol Shy & Bashful
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Seems the overwhelming numbers here are USA. And, it feeds into the
attitude that the USA is the only one that counts.
I'm curious as to how many visitors here have a non USA pilot
certificate and where from?
Further, how many pilots here have flown in countries other than the
USA?
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Old March 28th 08, 06:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Mar 28, 10:46 am, "Ol Shy & Bashful" wrote:
Seems the overwhelming numbers here are USA. And, it feeds into the
attitude that the USA is the only one that counts.
I'm curious as to how many visitors here have a non USA pilot
certificate and where from?
Further, how many pilots here have flown in countries other than the
USA?



And to start topic drift already, I'd like to follow up with:

If an American citizen has a USA commercial, is there any easy way to
collect certificates from other countries? I can see the advantage of
collecting a few more that would be beyond the reach of TSA and FAA
lunatics.
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Old March 28th 08, 07:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ol Shy & Bashful
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On Mar 28, 1:04*pm, wrote:
On Mar 28, 10:46 am, "Ol Shy & Bashful" wrote:

Seems the overwhelming numbers here are USA. And, it feeds into the
attitude that the USA is the only one that counts.
I'm curious as to how many visitors here have a non USA pilot
certificate and where from?
Further, how many pilots here have flown in countries other than the
USA?


And to start topic drift already, I'd like to follow up with:

If an American citizen has a USA commercial, is there any easy way to
collect certificates from other countries? I can see the advantage of
collecting a few more that would be beyond the reach of TSA and FAA
lunatics.


You can get certificates that are reciprocal based on your US
certificate but the norm is for you to take a local flight physical,
take a written on local air law/regs (and usually in the local
language....) and sometimes take a flight check. Most of the time, it
can be based on a physical, written, and based on your flight log with
appropriate restrictions. For diplomatic reasons, I elected to get a
Canada Commercial pilot cert for those countries that are not friendly
to the USA. So far, I've been licensed in at least 15 countries and my
original is with the USA - ATP ASMELS-RIFR,CFII/RAM
The Canada commercial was the most laborious and took a couple weeks
out of my life while I was in Vancouver getting certified. The other
were fairly quick, a few days at most in the different countries. I
was required to get licensed to fly their locally registered aircraft
for my employment. Most of it was for agricultural ops (crop dusting)
with either airplanes or helicopters. Only a few of the countries did
I have to know the local language other than English.
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Old March 28th 08, 08:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
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"Ol Shy & Bashful" wrote in news:9f5159fd-9377-
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You can get certificates that are reciprocal based on your US
certificate but the norm is for you to take a local flight physical,
take a written on local air law/regs (and usually in the local
language....) and sometimes take a flight check. Most of the time, it
can be based on a physical, written, and based on your flight log with
appropriate restrictions. For diplomatic reasons, I elected to get a
Canada Commercial pilot cert for those countries that are not friendly
to the USA. So far, I've been licensed in at least 15 countries and my
original is with the USA - ATP ASMELS-RIFR,CFII/RAM
The Canada commercial was the most laborious and took a couple weeks
out of my life while I was in Vancouver getting certified. The other
were fairly quick, a few days at most in the different countries. I
was required to get licensed to fly their locally registered aircraft
for my employment. Most of it was for agricultural ops (crop dusting)
with either airplanes or helicopters. Only a few of the countries did
I have to know the local language other than English.



Depends on the country, but at the commercial level the other country is
probably going to insist on a full set of their writtens, which will
almost certainly be quite a bit different to the FAA writtens ( how's
your celestial nav, for instance? ) and a flight test, more than likely
a local instrument check, will be required as well. Having said that, a
couple of hundred bucks is all that's required throughout most of
africa.,



Bertie

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Old March 28th 08, 08:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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On Mar 28, 11:04*am, wrote:
On Mar 28, 10:46 am, "Ol Shy & Bashful" wrote:


If an American citizen has a USA commercial, is there any easy way to
collect certificates from other countries? I can see the advantage of
collecting a few more that would be beyond the reach of TSA and FAA
lunatics.


I was asked to bring a sea plane to a new buyer in the US from Canada.
I looked into it. For a regular commercial you have to take a mini
Canadian checkride but for a short term commercial you just present
your FAA certificate to the Canadian "FAA" and they will issue you a
temp. I think I might have also had to get a Canadian medical
certificate. I didn't end up taking the job.

In Mexico its almost impossible. The Mexican gov't will first ask you
to show that there are no Mexican commercial pilots who could do what
you want to do. They are very, very sensitive about Americans taking
Mexican jobs. I do know of at least one American that does hold a
Mexican commercial. I believe he had to do a full checkride but it
allows him to fly Mexican registered planes in Mexico.

-Robert
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Old March 28th 08, 09:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Thomas Borchert
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Ol,

I'm curious as to how many visitors here have a non USA pilot
certificate and where from?


Germany (that is, now, pan-European JAR-PPL)

Further, how many pilots here have flown in countries other than the
USA?


Most Western European countries.

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Old March 28th 08, 09:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
terry
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On Mar 29, 4:46*am, "Ol Shy & Bashful" wrote:
Seems the overwhelming numbers here are USA. And, it feeds into the
attitude that the USA is the only one that counts.
I'm curious as to how many visitors here have a non USA pilot
certificate and where from?
Further, how many pilots here have flown in countries other than the
USA?


Well I am from Australia ( PPL ). Other than as human cargo I havent
flown in any other country. I think there are more non americans
than you realise, some just dont make it public. If I am not being
lazy I usually put PPL downunder after my name, just so people know
that I am flying in a very different environment with different rules
( not to mention upside down of course).
Speaking of being US centric, I have to tell you about the guy in New
Orleans who, obviously detecting my "different' accent, asked me what
state I came from. So I just said Victoria, and then he asked me if
that was near California. Yeh mate, just a little bit further west.

Terry

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Old March 28th 08, 10:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Ol Shy & Bashful wrote:

Further, how many pilots here have flown in countries other than the
USA?


I've flown in Canada several times.

A DEA agent once tried to give me credit for flying low into the U.S. from
Mexico, but that was just wishful thinking on his part :-)

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

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