ASH 31Mi

http://www.alexander-schleicher.de/p...h31_main_e.htm

At 13:14 19 December 2008, wrote:
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Can anyone lend me £200,000 at 1% ??

Jim

On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:00:05 +0000, Jim White wrote:

At 13:14 19 December 2008, wrote:
http://www.alexander-schleicher.de/p...h31_main_e.htm

Can anyone lend me £200,000 at 1% ??

Give Gordon another month and he'll do it.


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At 13:14 19 December 2008, wrote:
http://www.alexander-schleicher.de/p...h31_main_e.htm

Can anyone lend me £200,000 at 1% ??

Jim

On Dec 19, 6:14*am, wrote:
http://www.alexander-schleicher.de/p...h31_main_e.htm

I have revised my Christmas list!

Interesting that they are going back to water bags.

Also interesting that they claim no need for a tail tank. They said
the same for the 28 but then offered it as an option. I ordered one
with mine and I use it. Did anyone actually buy a 28 without the tail
tank?

Andy

The thing that caught my eye is this sentence:

"Our newly-developed wing structure allows for a wing span of 21m despite
of a wing section as thin as 13%."

Anyone got any information about what is new about the wing structure?
Anything that might make the surfaces have a low susceptibility to
shrinkage and deformity?

John Galloway

On Dec 19, 5:30*pm, John Galloway wrote:
The thing that caught my eye is this sentence:

"Our newly-developed wing structure allows for a wing span of 21m despite
of a wing section as thin as 13%."

Anyone got any information about what is new about the wing structure?
Anything that might make the surfaces have a low susceptibility to
shrinkage and deformity?

John Galloway

Hi John,
the newly-developed structure means mainly some stronger wing
structure to get the MTOW up to 600kg (or maybe more).
The fuselage, tail and wings are mostly the same from the 26. Only wih
slight changes and with new extension tips for the 21m. These
extension tips are exactly from the ASG-29 from the same molds. This
makes it very easy to create this new ship within a few months. I
expect the first 31 should be ready in March or April, 2009.

Dieter

Dieter Reuter wrote:
On Dec 19, 5:30 pm, John Galloway wrote:
The thing that caught my eye is this sentence:

"Our newly-developed wing structure allows for a wing span of 21m despite
of a wing section as thin as 13%."

Anyone got any information about what is new about the wing structure?
Anything that might make the surfaces have a low susceptibility to
shrinkage and deformity?

John Galloway

Hi John,
the newly-developed structure means mainly some stronger wing
structure to get the MTOW up to 600kg (or maybe more).
The fuselage, tail and wings are mostly the same from the 26. Only wih
slight changes and with new extension tips for the 21m. These
extension tips are exactly from the ASG-29 from the same molds. This
makes it very easy to create this new ship within a few months. I
expect the first 31 should be ready in March or April, 2009.

Dieter

The leading edge of the -26 wing is straight to about 60% of span, where
it transitions to a sweptback to the tip. The transition on the -31
wing is much less distinct, so I don't see how the -26 wing could be
used at that point. So they must be using more than just the -29
extensions.

Greg Arnold wrote:

The leading edge of the -26 wing is straight to about 60% of span, where
it transitions to a sweptback to the tip. The transition on the -31
wing is much less distinct, so I don't see how the -26 wing could be
used at that point. So they must be using more than just the -29
extensions.

By overlaying the 3 view drawings for the 26 and 31, it's clear the 26
wing is swept back more than the 31 wing at the "break" in the leading
edge; i.e., the chord at the parting point is larger for the 31 than the
26. It also appears the chord at the wingtip is slightly less for the
31, but that may be asking too much of the 3 views I have.

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Interesting news.
Can 31 wings be retrofitted to the 26?
Are the AS-H31 18m panels the AS-G29 15m panels, etc? That would
make sense.
With the inner panels having a 14m span it would be possible to
build 15m tips for the 31 and fly three classes.
It would be faster than the AS-W17 with wooden 15m tips, and that was
a rocket ship in it's time!
Basics of the KS review of the AS-W17/15m was: "Two speeds, thermal
and red line."
Jim

On Dec 20, 3:56 am, Dieter Reuter wrote:

the newly-developed structure means mainly some stronger wing
structure to get the MTOW up to 600kg (or maybe more).
The fuselage, tail and wings are mostly the same from the 26. Only wih
slight changes and with new extension tips for the 21m. These
extension tips are exactly from the ASG-29 from the same molds. This
makes it very easy to create this new ship within a few months. I
expect the first 31 should be ready in March or April, 2009.

Dieter