Major McSally takes command :)

This from the Aero-News Propwash email newsletter this morning:

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USAF Names First Female To Command Combat Squadron
And You'll Never Guess...

The 354th Fighter
Squadron, based at Arizona's Davis-Monthan AFB, has a new
commander: Lt. Col. Martha McSally.

If that name rings familiar, you might remember that the 38-year
old McSally sued the Pentagon three years ago because, while in
Saudi Arabia, the military made her wear Muslim religious garb --
called abayas -- so as not to offend the locals.

That offended McSally's Christian sensibilities and, she said,
was unnecessary. Other US women serving in Saudi Arabia --
diplomats and office workers -- didn't have to comply with the
order.

McSally becomes the first woman to command a combat squadron.
The 354th conducts A-10 operations in both Afhganistan and Iraq.
But that's nothing new to McSally. She's used to being the
first.

In 1994, she was the first female USAF pilot to conduct combat
operations.
FMI: www.af.mil

For the WHOLE story, go to
http://www.aero-news.net/news/milita...a-2f6a92f465e8

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I seem to remember some folks on this NG saying her career was done after
that lawsuit. Now how soon will the Navy get a female carrier squadron CO?




Cub Driver wrote:

This from the Aero-News Propwash email newsletter
this morning:

***********************************************

USAF Names First Female To Command Combat Squadron
And You'll Never Guess...

The 354th Fighter
Squadron, based at Arizona's Davis-Monthan AFB,
has a new
commander: Lt. Col. Martha McSally.

If that name rings familiar, you might remember
that the 38-year
old McSally sued the Pentagon three years ago
because, while in
Saudi Arabia, the military made her wear Muslim
religious garb --
called abayas -- so as not to offend the locals.


That offended McSally's Christian sensibilities
and, she said,
was unnecessary. Other US women serving in Saudi
Arabia --
diplomats and office workers -- didn't have
to comply with the
order.

The 354th conducts A-10 operations in both Afhganistan
and Iraq.
But that's nothing new to McSally. She's used
to being the
first.

In 1994, she was the first female USAF pilot
to conduct combat
operations.
FMI: www.af.mil

For the WHOLE story, go to
http://www.aero-news.net/news/milita...a-2f6a92f465e8

************************************************* *****
all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver
in subject line)

The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
The Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com
Viva Bush! blog www.vivabush.org


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No, Matt, if she were a MAN here career would have been over. In today's
military, she'll be 0-6 BTZ and more than likely a one-button within the
next five years.

"Equal" opportunity doncha know.

Steve Swartz




"Matt Wiser" wrote in message
news:40992d8f$1@bg2....

I seem to remember some folks on this NG saying her career was done after
that lawsuit. Now how soon will the Navy get a female carrier squadron CO?




Cub Driver wrote:

This from the Aero-News Propwash email newsletter
this morning:

***********************************************

USAF Names First Female To Command Combat Squadron
And You'll Never Guess...

The 354th Fighter
Squadron, based at Arizona's Davis-Monthan AFB,
has a new
commander: Lt. Col. Martha McSally.

If that name rings familiar, you might remember
that the 38-year
old McSally sued the Pentagon three years ago
because, while in
Saudi Arabia, the military made her wear Muslim
religious garb --
called abayas -- so as not to offend the locals.


That offended McSally's Christian sensibilities
and, she said,
was unnecessary. Other US women serving in Saudi
Arabia --
diplomats and office workers -- didn't have
to comply with the
order.

The 354th conducts A-10 operations in both Afhganistan
and Iraq.
But that's nothing new to McSally. She's used
to being the
first.

In 1994, she was the first female USAF pilot
to conduct combat
operations.
FMI: www.af.mil

For the WHOLE story, go to

http://www.aero-news.net/news/milita...b5e06-fd6b-432
5-90da-2f6a92f465e8

************************************************* *****
all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver
in subject line)

The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
The Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com
Viva Bush! blog www.vivabush.org


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On Wed, 5 May 2004 18:51:31 -0400, "Leslie Swartz" wrote:

No, Matt, if she were a MAN here career would have been over. In today's
military, she'll be 0-6 BTZ and more than likely a one-button within the
next five years.

"Equal" opportunity doncha know.

Steve Swartz

You certainly hit the nail on the head!!!! The feminazis will be holding rallies
any day now, and SACOF****S, oops, I mean DACOWITS will be screaming
bloody murder.

Al Minyard

My guess is that she will make O-6 on time but not before and then go no
further. I strongly suspect that she has other plans than making the AF a
long term affair. If HRC manages to worm herself into power, McChing will
likely show up somewhere in the SecDef area.
"Alan Minyard" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 5 May 2004 18:51:31 -0400, "Leslie Swartz"
wrote:

No, Matt, if she were a MAN here career would have been over. In today's
military, she'll be 0-6 BTZ and more than likely a one-button within the
next five years.

"Equal" opportunity doncha know.

Steve Swartz

You certainly hit the nail on the head!!!! The feminazis will be holding
rallies
any day now, and SACOF****S, oops, I mean DACOWITS will be screaming
bloody murder.

Al Minyard

Probably so, but there were those on this NG who were saying that her career
was over and done after the lawsuit. (I wasn't one of them BTW) She had some
very good arguments in her case, which have become moot now that Prince Sultan
AB has now reverted to RSAF control, and the active bases are now in countries
that are much more tolerant of servicewomen off-base. Having a number of
congressional friends certainly helped as well. She probably will be a O-6
and a wing commander in the future.




"Leslie Swartz" wrote:
No, Matt, if she were a MAN here career would
have been over. In today's
military, she'll be 0-6 BTZ and more than likely
a one-button within the
next five years.

"Equal" opportunity doncha know.

Steve Swartz




"Matt Wiser" wrote
in message
news:40992d8f$1@bg2....

I seem to remember some folks on this NG saying
her career was done after
that lawsuit. Now how soon will the Navy get
a female carrier squadron CO?




Cub Driver wrote:

This from the Aero-News Propwash email newsletter
this morning:

***********************************************

USAF Names First Female To Command Combat
Squadron
And You'll Never Guess...

The 354th Fighter
Squadron, based at Arizona's Davis-Monthan
AFB,
has a new
commander: Lt. Col. Martha McSally.

If that name rings familiar, you might remember
that the 38-year
old McSally sued the Pentagon three years
ago
because, while in
Saudi Arabia, the military made her wear
Muslim
religious garb --
called abayas -- so as not to offend the
locals.


That offended McSally's Christian sensibilities
and, she said,
was unnecessary. Other US women serving in
Saudi
Arabia --
diplomats and office workers -- didn't have
to comply with the
order.

The 354th conducts A-10 operations in both
Afhganistan
and Iraq.
But that's nothing new to McSally. She's
used
to being the
first.

In 1994, she was the first female USAF pilot
to conduct combat
operations.
FMI: www.af.mil

For the WHOLE story, go to

http://www.aero-news.net/news/milita...b5e06-fd6b-432
5-90da-2f6a92f465e8

************************************************* *****
all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver
in subject line)

The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
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Viva Bush! blog www.vivabush.org


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She had some
very good arguments in her case,

JAG got a good episode out of it.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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Cub Driver wrote:

She had some
very good arguments in her case,

JAG got a good episode out of it.

One of my favorite episodes. They do get a lot of episode material from real-life
events. One based on Kelly Flinn a few years back, another similar to the
Tailhook scandal, Harm's landing a C-130 on a carrier (they remembered the
C-103 landing tests on USS Forrestal (CV-59) back in '63), and so forth.



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McSally becomes the first woman to command a combat squadron.

Not 100% true. In 1994 I had to wake up extra early to be on "Good Morning
America" with our new squadron commander (a woman) who was being hailed as the
"first woman to command a combat squadron". Now, granted, we were a Minuteman
III ICBM squadron, but we were still considered a combat (designated as Combat
Crews) unit.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

On 06 May 2004 14:29:20 GMT, (BUFDRVR) wrote:

McSally becomes the first woman to command a combat squadron.

Not 100% true. In 1994 I had to wake up extra early to be on "Good Morning
America" with our new squadron commander (a woman) who was being hailed as the
"first woman to command a combat squadron". Now, granted, we were a Minuteman
III ICBM squadron, but we were still considered a combat (designated as Combat
Crews) unit.

Ahh, those were the days. The development of the "Combat Crew" badge
to provide dignity to the non-combatants in the holes of the great
American prairies. Never saw one on an aircrew uniform at least in the
Unified commands. Did see one or two on the pockets of some Specified
command drivers....

And the missile badge, predecessor of the current generation fixation
with a badge for every specialty. Gotta look real close to see if the
brightly nickle-plated escutcheon is personnel, finance, food
services, JAG, or civil engineers.

For a while at Nellis we wanted to all wear missileer badges--only we
were going to wear them horizontally just below our wings. SAC's
missiles pointed upward, ours fired horizontally. We actually got to
shoot ours.


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
Smithsonian Institution Press
ISBN #1-58834-103-8