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In another thread today, the issue of Spot tracking performance came
up. In particular, it was pointed out that several pilots at the ongoing Senior's contest were experiencing long periods of missed tracking reports. This is an area that I have personally investigated recently. I gave a presentation at a recent Arizona Soaring Association meeting on the subject. As Tuno pointed out in that other thread, my presentation is available for download at my Wing Rigger web site at this page: http://www.wingrigger.com/wingrigger5_005.htm Unfortunately though, that presentation does not inform well without a lot of words to go with it. With that in mind, I will summarize some of the key points here. I did a bit of analysis and a lot of long duration experiments to arrive at some conclusions which I think are pertinent to our application in sailplanes. First, I think it is useful to understand that Spot is using the Globalstar constellation of 40 satellites orbiting in low Earth orbit - like 800 miles up. At any given point on the earth's surface at any given time, there will likely be two or three satellites in view and sometimes only one. Statistically, you must expect that the satellites that you need at any given time are going to be very near to the horizon. It would actually be quite rare to have a Globalstar satellite in a 45° cone overhead for example. If you want to have really good Spot performance, you must be thinking foremost about having a good line of sight to the horizon -- the whole horizon. This is not easy to achieve in a glider cockpit. The unit should be located high in the cockpit in order to have a good view of most of the horizon. It is also useful to understand a little bit about the antenna in the Spot unit. It is a patch antenna oriented horizontally as the unit sits flat on a table. This antenna transmits preferentially into its upper hemisphere and only weakly in the downward hemisphere direction. In long duration ground-based testing on top of the gazebo in the back yard of my house, I was able to demonstrate about 99% throughput performance with the unit oriented flat, logo side up. However, with the Spot unit turned upside down, throughput performance drops to about 65%. This gives an indication of the relative performance through the back lobes of the antenna. Ideally, you would always want to keep your Spot unit perfectly horizontal. Of course, gliders don't stay horizontal -- you have to bank them a good portion of the time. If you think about a Spot unit banked at 45°, what that really means is that about half of the horizon will be visible through the main lobe of the Spot patch antenna and about half of the horizon is viewed through its back lobes. Furthermore, when banked, a good portion of that weak back lobe energy will need to be transmitted through portions of the glider structure which will attenuate the RF energy even more. Carbon structures are much worse than fiberglass in that regard. This would certainly lead one to expect that a properly oriented and well-placed Spot unit would perform much better while cruising as opposed to tharmalling. To investigate that premise I analyzed two of my recent five hour flights. I used SeeYou to examine whether or not my glider was cruising or circling at Spot track transmission time stamps (which occur every 10 minutes) as well as whether I was cruising or circling at missing transmission times. That analysis showed that for my mounting position, I am getting 98% message throughput performance in cruise and 80% throughput while banked in climb. For a typical flight of 70% cruise, my aggregate throughput performance is about 93%. My mounting location is high behind the headrest in my glider. This was the best location that I could come up with from the point of view of track mode throughput. My mounting position does not give me access to the unit during flight; but that suits me fine. My concept is to turn it on and forget it. I have better things to worry about than pushing Spot buttons while I'm flying. I realize that many users are considering that it could be important to have the Spot unit mounted on their parachutes, and it might be. However, I don't suspect that there is any good place to put the gadget on a parachute without significantly diminishing the track mode throughput performance. I say this for three reasons: it will be very hard to maintain the Spot unit horizontally while attached to a parachute; spot unit will be necessarily lower in the glider cockpit so that there will be more airplane structured to attenuate signal; and the human body is a very good absorber of RF energy at Spot's 1.6 GHz transmit frequency, so close to your body will mean that a good portion of the horizon would become blocked out. As I weigh the likelihoods and the relative benefits of having spot with me during a parachute jump as compared to the benefits of having strong tracking mode performance, the latter wins hands-down. Having reliable tracking mode performance means that I can expect a real ELT- like benefit of having a feasible area to search for my glider should the day ever come that I'm not heard from. Actual ELTs don't work most of the time in crashes whereas Spot really will work. However, if I were having 30 minute Spot gaps, then the potential search area would become hopelessly large. It is primarily for that reason that I consider it to be especially important to have good track mode performance. |
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On Mar 9, 9:33*pm, Steve Koerner wrote:
In another thread today, the issue of Spot tracking performance came up. *In particular, it was pointed out that several pilots at the ongoing Senior's contest were experiencing long periods of missed tracking reports. *This is an area that I have personally investigated recently. *I *gave a presentation at a recent Arizona Soaring Association meeting on the subject. *As Tuno pointed out in that other thread, my presentation is available for download at my Wing Rigger web site at this page: I have just joined the SPOT community and have done some ground testing and one flight. I received my SPOT the same day as I attended Steve's interesting presentation so that was good timing. Has anyone found a good place to mount SPOT in the cockpit so it has a good view of the sky, is out of the way, not an obstruction to outside vision, and easy to configure before flight. Like Steve, I don't mind if I can't reach it in flight, but unlike Steve I can't mount it on the headrest as it would be under the turtledeck as my seat back is fully aft. Although there is a glass RF window in the turtle deck of the 28 I think the front arch is carbon. For my first flight SPOT was clipped to my parachute chest strap and was not in an optimum orientation. As expected I lost many reports. I am wondering if it would work under the glareshield between the panel and the nose. That position would be high up but it would have to transmit and receive through a layer of glass. The forward position should mean there would be less blocking by the wings when thermalling than for a headrest mounting. So what has been tried and what works? Andy |
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On Mar 10, 2:41*pm, Andy wrote:
So what has been tried and what works? On my ASH-26E, I installed the spot on the canopy rail right next to my right shoulder. It's got a good view of most of the sky, and I can verify the LEDs are blinking. So far, I get good tracking results. I removed the belt clip and attached a little bit of heavy duty hook and loop material to keep it attached. This should work on all recent Schleicher gliders as they have that nice wide sill back there. -Tom |
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On Mar 10, 4:50*pm, 5Z wrote:
On Mar 10, 2:41*pm, Andy wrote: So what has been tried and what works? On my ASH-26E, I installed the spot on the canopy rail right next to my right shoulder. *It's got a good view of most of the sky, and I can verify the LEDs are blinking. *So far, I get good tracking results. *I removed the belt clip and attached a little bit of heavy duty hook and loop material to keep it attached. This should work on all recent Schleicher gliders as they have that nice wide sill back there. -Tom Wow - thanks to everyone, especially Steve, for this very detailed overview. FWIW, on my LS8, I could easily mount the spot similar to an old Camera (remember those) using whole pre-drilled into the canopy frame and a small piece of bent aluminum. I expect many other ships would be like that... |
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On Mar 10, 5:05*pm, Papa3 wrote:
On Mar 10, 4:50*pm, 5Z wrote: On Mar 10, 2:41*pm, Andy wrote: So what has been tried and what works? On my ASH-26E, I installed the spot on the canopy rail right next to my right shoulder. *It's got a good view of most of the sky, and I can verify the LEDs are blinking. *So far, I get good tracking results. *I removed the belt clip and attached a little bit of heavy duty hook and loop material to keep it attached. This should work on all recent Schleicher gliders as they have that nice wide sill back there. -Tom Wow - thanks to everyone, especially Steve, for this very detailed overview. FWIW, on my LS8, I could easily mount the spot similar to an old Camera (remember those) using whole pre-drilled *into the canopy frame and a small piece of bent aluminum. * I expect many other ships would be like that... That should read "using the holes pre-drilled into the canopy frame"... |
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On Mar 10, 1:50*pm, 5Z wrote:
On Mar 10, 2:41*pm, Andy wrote: So what has been tried and what works? On my ASH-26E, I installed the spot on the canopy rail right next to my right shoulder. *It's got a good view of most of the sky, and I can verify the LEDs are blinking. *So far, I get good tracking results. *I removed the belt clip and attached a little bit of heavy duty hook and loop material to keep it attached. This should work on all recent Schleicher gliders as they have that nice wide sill back there. -Tom I fly with my SPOT on the canopy rail of my 26E, more forward than Tom's. Just on top of the rail behind where the canopy open/eject levers are. Held on with 3M adhesive "mushroom" tape. It is handy to be able to check the LEDs and confirm it is indeed in tracking mode and you just did not accidentally send a single OK message (i.e. 20 or so minutes later the green LEDs are still blinking in unison). In the Duo Discus I attach it to the rear instrument pedestal. I get reliable SPOT tracking in both cases. In general I'd want the SPOT where I can reach it, to check on it's operation, and if needed to send a help or 911 message. Those folks with them on their parachute harness with problems with missed tracking points need to move them (or live with the trade of that having it mounted there may cause lots of missed tracking points. Remember that unlike other SPOT messages a tracking (aka SPOTcast) messages is *not* resent, it is a one-shot attempt every 10 minutes. Darryl |
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Andy:
My opinion is that immediately under the glare shield probably would perform well. It just seems like that would be annoying as far as getting at it to turn it on and off. Maybe if you made a cut out in the glare shield so that the unit would mount to the underside of the cut out plate and would therefor just drop into place. Of course that would require some type of fastening for the cut out plate. Maybe the cut out plate would be hinged along the forward edge?? |
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I like mine attached to me in case I have to bail.
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...eat=directlink "Steve Koerner" wrote in message ... Andy: My opinion is that immediately under the glare shield probably would perform well. It just seems like that would be annoying as far as getting at it to turn it on and off. Maybe if you made a cut out in the glare shield so that the unit would mount to the underside of the cut out plate and would therefor just drop into place. Of course that would require some type of fastening for the cut out plate. Maybe the cut out plate would be hinged along the forward edge?? |
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I have mine on my parachute chest strap and I am seated reclined, so
the front face is about at a 45 degree angle. I get pretty good tracking results. You said you tested it with the logo side up and down. I assumed that the device was designed with the belt strap on the back side so that the logo would face horizonally / the horizon. It appears as they intended it to hang vertically. Did you test it in this orientation? Chris |
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On Mar 10, 7:56*pm, wrote:
I have mine on my parachute chest strap and I am seated reclined, so the front face is about at a 45 degree angle. *I get pretty good tracking results. You said you tested it with the logo side up and down. *I assumed that the device was designed with the belt strap on the back side so that the logo would face horizonally / the horizon. It appears as they intended it to hang vertically. Did you test it in this orientation? Chris The SPOT messenger is a fantastic product, but because of it's internal technology, and in spite of it's poor industrial design. There must have been a disconnect somewhere between the product management, the ID team/design house and engineering. And it's likely literally this type of issue as the engineering is all done by Axonn a separate company than SPOT and Globalstar and I'm sure SPOT or Axonn contracted out the industrial and mechanical design work. So for the antennas (both the GPS and Globalstar) a planar antenna pointing at the horizon is far from optimal, half the usable beamwidth would be lost in obstructions below the horizon. It is actually worse than that simple model because of satellite orbit geometry and satellite antenna footprint. So the belt clip is designed to hold the unit, but not reallly while it is in use. Pretty stupid huh. The lack of though about how to mount the unit on a car dashboard or other location, the overloading of the button functions, the overloading of the dual blinking LEDs, different LED patterns that mean things that are not clearly explained are other examples of poor design. However the SPOT messenger is a great device (I really like mine) and hopefully SPOT will correct some of the ID snd usability weaknesses in future products, and/or provide products more tailored to different uses/markets. Darryl |
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