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Old August 12th 09, 05:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
jan olieslagers[_2_]
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Default what plane fits this mission?

Mission:
-) four-seater, 1100-1400 lbs gross
-) 150 hp should be enough
-) folding wings/trailerable absolutely required
-) stol not required, faster cruise preferred

Already considered RV10, Murphy Rebel, CH801
but none mentions folding wings and all are proud of their
stol-capability but I want a (moderate) tourer.
Plans/kit/factory built all valid options.
TIA,
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Old August 12th 09, 06:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
cavelamb[_2_]
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Default what plane fits this mission?

jan olieslagers wrote:
Mission:
-) four-seater, 1100-1400 lbs gross
-) 150 hp should be enough
-) folding wings/trailerable absolutely required
-) stol not required, faster cruise preferred

Already considered RV10, Murphy Rebel, CH801
but none mentions folding wings and all are proud of their
stol-capability but I want a (moderate) tourer.
Plans/kit/factory built all valid options.
TIA,



BD-4, RV-10 ?
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Old August 12th 09, 06:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
jan olieslagers[_2_]
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Default what plane fits this mission?

cavelamb schreef:
jan olieslagers wrote:
Mission:
-) four-seater, 1100-1400 lbs gross
-) 150 hp should be enough
-) folding wings/trailerable absolutely required
-) stol not required, faster cruise preferred

Already considered RV10, Murphy Rebel, CH801
but none mentions folding wings and all are proud of their
stol-capability but I want a (moderate) tourer.
Plans/kit/factory built all valid options.
TIA,



BD-4, RV-10 ?


Thank you Richard, the BD4 had escaped my eagle's eye and does seem to
fit the mission. As for the RV10, does it really have folding wings?
KA
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Old August 12th 09, 07:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
cavelamb[_2_]
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Default what plane fits this mission?

jan olieslagers wrote:
cavelamb schreef:
jan olieslagers wrote:
Mission:
-) four-seater, 1100-1400 lbs gross
-) 150 hp should be enough
-) folding wings/trailerable absolutely required
-) stol not required, faster cruise preferred

Already considered RV10, Murphy Rebel, CH801
but none mentions folding wings and all are proud of their
stol-capability but I want a (moderate) tourer.
Plans/kit/factory built all valid options.
TIA,



BD-4, RV-10 ?


Thank you Richard, the BD4 had escaped my eagle's eye and does seem to
fit the mission. As for the RV10, does it really have folding wings?
KA


No, I think ya got me on that one...
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Old August 13th 09, 12:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Brian Whatcott
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Default what plane fits this mission?

jan olieslagers wrote:
cavelamb schreef:
jan olieslagers wrote:
Mission:
-) four-seater, 1100-1400 lbs gross
-) 150 hp should be enough
-) folding wings/trailerable absolutely required
-) stol not required, faster cruise preferred

Already considered RV10, Murphy Rebel, CH801
but none mentions folding wings and all are proud of their
stol-capability but I want a (moderate) tourer.
Plans/kit/factory built all valid options.
TIA,



BD-4, RV-10 ?


Thank you Richard, the BD4 had escaped my eagle's eye and does seem to
fit the mission. As for the RV10, does it really have folding wings?
KA



If I remember, the wings plug into a tubular center section on the BD-4
Does that count as folding? It was a Summer long ago in LA, that I
walked into a book store, for goodness sake, and walked out with a book
of plans for the BD-4. I took it down off the shelf - and there were
details of a folder..... 160 mph cruise at 75% 150 HP it says here....
4 seater = 2000 lb

Way more practical than the -5?

Brian W
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Old August 13th 09, 02:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Peter Dohm
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Default what plane fits this mission?

"brian whatcott" wrote in message
...
jan olieslagers wrote:
cavelamb schreef:
jan olieslagers wrote:
Mission:
-) four-seater, 1100-1400 lbs gross
-) 150 hp should be enough
-) folding wings/trailerable absolutely required
-) stol not required, faster cruise preferred

Already considered RV10, Murphy Rebel, CH801
but none mentions folding wings and all are proud of their
stol-capability but I want a (moderate) tourer.
Plans/kit/factory built all valid options.
TIA,


BD-4, RV-10 ?


Thank you Richard, the BD4 had escaped my eagle's eye and does seem to
fit the mission. As for the RV10, does it really have folding wings?
KA



If I remember, the wings plug into a tubular center section on the BD-4
Does that count as folding? It was a Summer long ago in LA, that I
walked into a book store, for goodness sake, and walked out with a book of
plans for the BD-4. I took it down off the shelf - and there were
details of a folder..... 160 mph cruise at 75% 150 HP it says here....
4 seater = 2000 lb

Way more practical than the -5?

Brian W


It is indeed more practical than a BD-5, but less versatile that a Cessna
172. From all I ever heard, although fast, it was a very marginal four
seater. The most memorable comment that I personally heard from a BD-4
owner was: "It will spin--DON'T!"

Peter



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Old August 12th 09, 07:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Peter Dohm
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Default what plane fits this mission?

"jan olieslagers" wrote in message
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Mission:
-) four-seater, 1100-1400 lbs gross
-) 150 hp should be enough
-) folding wings/trailerable absolutely required
-) stol not required, faster cruise preferred

Already considered RV10, Murphy Rebel, CH801
but none mentions folding wings and all are proud of their stol-capability
but I want a (moderate) tourer.
Plans/kit/factory built all valid options.
TIA,


I don't know of anything that will fit your goals; but I hope that you meant
1100-1400KG. Otherwise, I am confitent that nothing will fit.

Peter


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Old August 12th 09, 10:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Scott[_7_]
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Default what plane fits this mission?

Peter Dohm wrote:
"jan olieslagers" wrote in message
...
Mission:
-) four-seater, 1100-1400 lbs gross
-) 150 hp should be enough
-) folding wings/trailerable absolutely required
-) stol not required, faster cruise preferred

Already considered RV10, Murphy Rebel, CH801
but none mentions folding wings and all are proud of their stol-capability
but I want a (moderate) tourer.
Plans/kit/factory built all valid options.
TIA,


I don't know of anything that will fit your goals; but I hope that you meant
1100-1400KG. Otherwise, I am confitent that nothing will fit.

Peter


I was thinking 1100-1400 USEFUL load. at 1400 pounds GROSS, the
airplane would have to weigh under about 500 pounds....
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Old August 12th 09, 07:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Jim Logajan
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Default what plane fits this mission?

jan olieslagers wrote:
Mission:
-) four-seater, 1100-1400 lbs gross


I assume you really meant 1100 to 1400 lbs useful load? I don't see how you
can fit 4 people, any baggage or realistic fuel in something with an empty
weight of well under 400 to 700 lbs!

-) 150 hp should be enough
-) folding wings/trailerable absolutely required
-) stol not required, faster cruise preferred


Pretty demanding competing requirements.

Already considered RV10, Murphy Rebel, CH801
but none mentions folding wings and all are proud of their
stol-capability but I want a (moderate) tourer.
Plans/kit/factory built all valid options.
TIA,

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Old August 12th 09, 07:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Anyolmouse
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Default what plane fits this mission?


"jan olieslagers" wrote in message
...
Mission:
-) four-seater, 1100-1400 lbs gross
-) 150 hp should be enough
-) folding wings/trailerable absolutely required
-) stol not required, faster cruise preferred

Already considered RV10, Murphy Rebel, CH801
but none mentions folding wings and all are proud of their
stol-capability but I want a (moderate) tourer.
Plans/kit/factory built all valid options.
TIA,


4 place with a gross of 1100 to 1400 lbs? 700 lbs for 4 on board plus
fuel plus airframe. A Cessna-150 has a gross of 1300-1500 lbs. Your
requirements point more to a C-172 with a gross of 2300-2500 lbs. Yes,
I know experimental aircraft are built with lighter airframes; but 1000
lbs lighter?

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