Kerry didn't join the National Guard to avoid combat.

Bush did that.


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Bush did that.

I would probably argue that Bush's 3 years as a fighter pilot were both more
dangerous and of a greater overall service to his country than Kerry's 3
months as a Swiftie. And then there's the fact that Kerry pretty obviously
gamed the system to get out of his tour early.


Hey, but Bush has an 11 point lead, despite your rantings. Or perhaps
because of them. Either way, Kerry is probably toast come November. Oh well.

Yea, you're right. He joined the Naval Reserve to avoid combat.

Never did show up either.

"ArtKramr" wrote

Bush did that.

In article , Thomas J.
Paladino Jr. wrote:

Bush did that.

I would probably argue that Bush's 3 years as a fighter pilot were both more
dangerous and of a greater overall service to his country than Kerry's 3
months as a Swiftie. And then there's the fact that Kerry pretty obviously
gamed the system to get out of his tour early.


Hey, but Bush has an 11 point lead, despite your rantings. Or perhaps
because of them. Either way, Kerry is probably toast come November. Oh well.

And, ya know, those facts about their earlier military conduct really
don't mean much. The Vietnam War was such a ****ed up situation that
it is really hard to figure out what was the 'right' action.

raoul

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
...
Bush did that.

But by his own admission, in an account resurfaced by the Boston Globe some
time back, Kerry did admit he volunteered for Swift boat duty because he
thought it would get him into the theater *without* exposing him to actual
combat. "I didn't really want to get involved in the war," Kerry said in a
little-noticed contribution to a book of Vietnam reminiscences published in
1986. "When I signed up for the swift boats, they had very little to do with
the war. They were engaged in coastal patrolling and that's what I thought I
was going to be doing."

http://www.spinsanity.org/post.html?...1_archive.html

So where does that leave him?

Brooks


Arthur Kramer

"Raoul" wrote in message
...
In article , Thomas J.
Paladino Jr. wrote:

Bush did that.

I would probably argue that Bush's 3 years as a fighter pilot were both
more
dangerous and of a greater overall service to his country than Kerry's 3
months as a Swiftie. And then there's the fact that Kerry pretty
obviously
gamed the system to get out of his tour early.


Hey, but Bush has an 11 point lead, despite your rantings. Or perhaps
because of them. Either way, Kerry is probably toast come November. Oh
well.

And, ya know, those facts about their earlier military conduct really
don't mean much. The Vietnam War was such a ****ed up situation that
it is really hard to figure out what was the 'right' action.



Yep, thats basically the core truth of this whole issue.

Unfortunately, Kerry decided to make his three months in Vietnam the
foundation of his entire campaign, so now here we are dissecting what two
kids in their 20s did during probably the most ass-backwards period in
modern history.

If Kerry had spent more time talking about his 20 years in the senate,
rather than his 3 months in 'Nam, then this would be a non-issue. I still
don't know what he did in the senate for all that time.

"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message
...

But by his own admission, in an account resurfaced by the Boston Globe
some
time back, Kerry did admit he volunteered for Swift boat duty because he
thought it would get him into the theater *without* exposing him to actual
combat. "I didn't really want to get involved in the war," Kerry said in a
little-noticed contribution to a book of Vietnam reminiscences published
in
1986. "When I signed up for the swift boats, they had very little to do
with
the war. They were engaged in coastal patrolling and that's what I thought
I
was going to be doing."

http://www.spinsanity.org/post.html?...1_archive.html

So where does that leave him?


Uhh, wiser than anyone imagined?

"Thomas J. Paladino Jr." wrote in message
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If Kerry had spent more time talking about his 20 years in the senate,
rather than his 3 months in 'Nam, then this would be a non-issue.


Yeah, and Bush would have a twenty point lead.

"Thomas J. Paladino Jr." wrote

I still don't know what he did in the senate for all that time.

Ask Kennedy, he's the guy that kept him elected in MA.

Subject: Kerry didn't join the National Guard to avoid combat.
From: "Steven P. McNicoll"
Date: 9/5/2004 2:41 PM Pacific Standard Time
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"Thomas J. Paladino Jr." wrote in message
.. .

If Kerry had spent more time talking about his 20 years in the senate,
rather than his 3 months in 'Nam, then this would be a non-issue.


Yeah, and Bush would have a twenty point lead.


Let's see if I have the neocon logic right. Bush who never saw combat or fired
a shot in anger or met the enemy is a hero. But Kerry, wounded many times in
combat, awarded a Silver Star and three Purple Hearts is a coward. Right
neocons? What a sick bunch you are.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer