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Old October 1st 03, 07:25 AM
Bud Patterson
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Default How many hours? Copper Cable Kit for '78 Warrior

I did the Google search for previous discussions,
found the Bogert Kit http://maxpages.com/bogertaviation/Copper_Cable_Kit,
but didn't find an estimate of the number of hours needed to install
the kit. The answer will bias the decision wrt DIY under supervision or
just have it done. My A&P lacks experience in this area,
eliciting a fit of head scratching, beard pulling and pessimistic
noises.....

I'll call Bogert, get their estimate and post back. I bet this will
be the *minimum* theoretical time

Thanks for your support,

-Bud

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San Diego MYF
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Old October 1st 03, 11:34 AM
Bob Noel
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In article , "Bud Patterson"
wrote:

I did the Google search for previous discussions,
found the Bogert Kit http://maxpages.com/bogertaviation/Copper_Cable_Kit,
but didn't find an estimate of the number of hours needed to install
the kit. The answer will bias the decision wrt DIY under supervision or
just have it done.


From my perspective (having done it under supervision), it
depends on how neat you want to be. IIRC, it took me most
of a Saturday to do it. The fun of taking off interior
panels and reinstalling them makes an estimate difficult.

One recommendation: take pictures (e.g., with a digital camera)
of the routing of the wires. Take LOTS of pictures.

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Old October 1st 03, 02:46 PM
Michelle P
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Bud,

Plan on all day. You have to take out the left side wall panels,
cut/pull the old cable, route the new one and terminate it. then put the
aircraft back together. Oh forgot you have to remove the pilots seat too
(not hard).

Michelle A&P

Bud Patterson wrote:

I did the Google search for previous discussions,
found the Bogert Kit http://maxpages.com/bogertaviation/Copper_Cable_Kit,
but didn't find an estimate of the number of hours needed to install
the kit. The answer will bias the decision wrt DIY under supervision or
just have it done. My A&P lacks experience in this area,
eliciting a fit of head scratching, beard pulling and pessimistic
noises.....

I'll call Bogert, get their estimate and post back. I bet this will
be the *minimum* theoretical time

Thanks for your support,

-Bud

N235PA
San Diego MYF
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Old October 2nd 03, 12:42 AM
Jim Vadek
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I did it under A&P supervision in about five hours, and it was well worth
it. Bogert makes a good kit and it comes with everything you'll need
including instructions for your A&P. Take all the seats out and work your
way from back to front removing the panels. I found it saved time to take
out the hatshelf instead of fiddling the cables in the dark. You'll need
some help feeding the cables through the firewall, and the airframe
grounding cable was a stinker to attach (I am not a small guy).

Good luck, save a few $$$ and do most of the gruntwork yourself. It is not a
difficult task. The copper cables make a huge difference to starting power.

"Bud Patterson" wrote in message
...
I did the Google search for previous discussions,
found the Bogert Kit http://maxpages.com/bogertaviation/Copper_Cable_Kit,
but didn't find an estimate of the number of hours needed to install
the kit. The answer will bias the decision wrt DIY under supervision or
just have it done. My A&P lacks experience in this area,
eliciting a fit of head scratching, beard pulling and pessimistic
noises.....

I'll call Bogert, get their estimate and post back. I bet this will
be the *minimum* theoretical time

Thanks for your support,

-Bud

N235PA
San Diego MYF
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Old October 2nd 03, 12:49 AM
Neal
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My Cherokee had the Bogert cables installed in the past, years before
I bought the plane. There's still a receipt in the logbook bag showing
where the A&P billed the prior owners for 4 hours labor for the
installation. Looking at how much work is really involved, I bet it
actually took longer and the A&P just was really generous that day.
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Old October 2nd 03, 01:37 AM
G.R. Patterson III
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Neal wrote:

Looking at how much work is really involved, I bet it
actually took longer and the A&P just was really generous that day.


Actually, the A&P probably was a skilled mechanic.

George Patterson
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good fortune to run into the ones I like, and the eyesight to tell the
difference.
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Old October 2nd 03, 01:57 AM
Jim Vadek
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
...

Looking at how much work is really involved, I bet it
actually took longer and the A&P just was really generous that day.


Actually, the A&P probably was a skilled mechanic.


Skilled and honest. A rare combination.


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Old October 2nd 03, 02:18 AM
Blanche Cohen
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I've been waiting until I have the cash to replace the original '69
interior on the left side. And the insulation, too. Since the panels
must come off, may as well do everything at once.

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Old October 2nd 03, 05:31 AM
Bud Patterson
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"Bud Patterson" wrote ...
I'll call Bogert, get their estimate and post back.


Kathy from Bogert was very helpful. The kit is about
$250 and they estimate 6 - 8 hours as a stand alone
job and 4 - 6 hours if done during annual.

Bob, Michelle, Jim, Neal: Thanks for taking the time to reply
with your experiences. I think I'll go DIY if my A&P is game.

Cheers,

-Bud

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San Diego MYF
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Old October 3rd 03, 06:16 PM
Sandy Mustard
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If your warrior has the braided grounding strap at the battery box, I'd
spring for the Bogert battery box mod also.
It's about $50.

Sandy Mustard

Bud Patterson wrote:

"Bud Patterson" wrote ...
I'll call Bogert, get their estimate and post back.


Kathy from Bogert was very helpful. The kit is about
$250 and they estimate 6 - 8 hours as a stand alone
job and 4 - 6 hours if done during annual.

Bob, Michelle, Jim, Neal: Thanks for taking the time to reply
with your experiences. I think I'll go DIY if my A&P is game.

Cheers,

-Bud

N235PA
San Diego MYF
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