Piper Lance

I have just finsihed my Instrument rating and it is about time to move up to
soemthing faster that hauls more than my wonderful Piper Cherokee 140. An
interetsing possibility is a Piper Lance or Turbo Lance. I am open to
comments and hope to get some!

John Purner
Editor - The $100 Hamburger
http://www.100dollarhamburger.com

Renee Purner wrote:

I have just finsihed my Instrument rating and it is about time to move up to
soemthing faster that hauls more than my wonderful Piper Cherokee 140. An
interetsing possibility is a Piper Lance or Turbo Lance. I am open to
comments and hope to get some!

Both are not bad airplanes (although I've never been a big T-tail fan).
I was spending a fair amount of time in a turbo lance when 'Buckaroo
Banzai" was released and felt that the lines:

"...it flies like a truck.'
"Good. What is truck?"

Were somehow applicable to the lance.

Much of it comes down to your mission. It wouldn't be my choice if I
were going to be flying frequent solo trips or trips with a single pax.

Cheers,
Chris
N5524P PA24-250

On 31-Oct-2003, "Renee Purner" wrote:

I have just finsihed my Instrument rating and it is about time to move up
to soemthing faster that hauls more than my wonderful Piper Cherokee 140.
An
interetsing possibility is a Piper Lance or Turbo Lance. I am open to
comments and hope to get some!

John Purer
Editor - The $100 Hamburger
http://www.100dollarhamburger.com


Hello John. Love the $100 Hamburger by the way.

The Lance is fine if you have to haul more than 4 people or a LOT of cargo.
But it is expensive and thirsty. As for handling, well, it's a BIG
airplane.

If you like your 140 you would probably love an Arrow III or IV. Similar
straightforward, reasonably light handling, but able to comfortably haul 4
adults with reasonable range. (Or 3 adults, some baggage, and astounding
range.) Also, about 35 kts faster on only about 1.5 GPH more fuel.

--
-Elliott Drucker

The T Tail Lance is an unstable aircraft with a stabilator that flies after the
wing does, and it is unsafe.

If you want speed, look at a Mooney. If you want space and comfort in a four
place you cannot go past an Arrow. If you want a great plane for not a lot of
money look at a Comanche 250 or 260.



Renee Purner wrote:

I have just finsihed my Instrument rating and it is about time to move up to
soemthing faster that hauls more than my wonderful Piper Cherokee 140. An
interetsing possibility is a Piper Lance or Turbo Lance. I am open to
comments and hope to get some!

John Purner
Editor - The $100 Hamburger
http://www.100dollarhamburger.com

The T Tail Lance is an unstable aircraft with a stabilator that flies
after the
wing does, and it is unsafe.


a very bold statement..

"Pat Barry" wrote in message ...
The T Tail Lance is an unstable aircraft with a stabilator that flies
after the
wing does, and it is unsafe.

Thats why it certified. I did my PPL on a Tomahawk and had no difficulties
whatsoever.

Dont ya just love such certainty

"Pat Barry" wrote:
The T Tail Lance is an unstable aircraft with a stabilator that flies
after the wing does, and it is unsafe.

Piffle.

The T Tail Lance is an unstable aircraft with a stabilator that flies
after the
wing does, and it is unsafe.

If you want speed, look at a Mooney. If you want space and comfort in a
four
place you cannot go past an Arrow. If you want a great plane for not a lot
of
money look at a Comanche 250 or 260.

Geez, Pat -- you taking some sort of assertiveness training, or what? :-)
Excuse me while I disagree with just about everything you said...

1. I've heard the T-tail Lance is an outstanding aircraft, that -- due to
its undeserved reputation -- is a real bargain on the used market. I
believe MU-2 Mike can comment on that from personal experience.

2. For optimal space and comfort in a 4-place plane, you'll want something
other than an Arrow. It's not very fast (my fixed-gear Pathfinder, with the
same fuselage as the Arrow, is as fast), can't carry very much (my useful
load is hundreds of pounds higher) and you get the expense of retractable
gear for no apparent reason.

It's also not the most spacious plane inside. Mary, the kids, 200 pounds of
luggage, and I all fit inside Atlas just fine -- but it's not what I would
call "spacious".

3. I agree with your assessment of the Comanche, although as with all old
planes you've got to be very careful not to buy a money-pit. A friend of
mine on the field in Iowa City purchased a beautiful old Comanche 400
(admittedly a higher dollar, sexier version of the venerable Comanche) that
has cost him something in excess of $35K just to get into flying shape.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

The stabilator is supposed to fly after the wing stalls. If it didn't, it
would be uncontrollable.

The Turbo Lance is the best combination of speed, room and price among six
place singles.

Mike
MU-2


"Pat Barry" wrote in message ...
The T Tail Lance is an unstable aircraft with a stabilator that flies
after the
wing does, and it is unsafe.

If you want speed, look at a Mooney. If you want space and comfort in a
four
place you cannot go past an Arrow. If you want a great plane for not a lot
of
money look at a Comanche 250 or 260.



Renee Purner wrote:

I have just finsihed my Instrument rating and it is about time to move
up to
soemthing faster that hauls more than my wonderful Piper Cherokee 140.
An
interetsing possibility is a Piper Lance or Turbo Lance. I am open to
comments and hope to get some!

John Purner
Editor - The $100 Hamburger
http://www.100dollarhamburger.com

"BTIZ" wrote in news:MFHob.117080$La.77087
@fed1read02:

The T Tail Lance is an unstable aircraft with a stabilator that flies
after the
wing does, and it is unsafe.


a very bold statement..

... also untrue. I think we have a candidate as a writer for Flying
Magazine.



--
John Godwin
Silicon Rallye Inc.