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Hey all,
Just got a new Surecheck Trafficscope VRX (the model with altitude racking) - which I'll refer to as "the unit" - and since theres been some discussion and interest in these types of devices I'll give you my opinions on it. Aircraft Spruce had 1 in stock, so I got it and as soon as it arrived I went out to the airport. The packaging is very nice, a hard case with 'trafficscope' engraved on it, foam cutouts to hold everything, cigarette lighter adapter and headset adaptor, and a well written color manual. Of course I didnt even crack open the manual just to see how easy it is to use and figure out without it. Luckily it also came with a laminated quick reference card, I glossed over that for a second. On the way to the airport I fired it up to see how it'd do, it picked up a few airplanes alright, one I saw less than a mile away and it tracked it pretty accurately from what I could tell. For some reason I thought there was a built-in speaker, but there isn't, you can only hear the warnings with a headset plugged in or running a cable to your audio panel. I used a cable and connected to a jack just for this type of unit into my audio panel (PS Engineering PMA7000B). Waiting to hear something, of course there was no traffic around. I was wondering why the few airplanes on the ground taxiing around wouldn't set it off, or the ones on take-off or landing. This is a passive unit, it doesn't interrogate like a TCAS, so since radar doesn't quite make it to ground level at my airport, those airplanes transponders weren't firing off. As soon as they got about 500' AGL they sure did. Finally I got to hear the female voice warn me about the traffic, and it was loud, had to turn the volume down. Time to go flying. Couldn't figure out where to put it. I had two cables going into it so that was my only limitation. I put it left of right in front of me. On takeoff I found out that wasn't the best place. This was in a C182, which has a high panel to begin with, right of center, just to the right of the rear view mirror turned out to be a better location. It was dusk, so right after takeoff I turned on the backlight. It's blueish and pretty readable. Not long after takeoff the warnings began. First, one in the pattern, then a jet with Mode S or TCAS above, along with a Wake Turbulence verbal warning about that airplane. It'll track up to 3 targets but only display the closest one. The two closest must have been somewhat equal distant as the mileage and altitude display would shift from one to the other, otherwise altitude changes like those were nearly impossible (500' above - 300' below - 400' above). Mostly I got the "no threat" message. I then called for flight following, the controller seemed in a good mood, so I told him we were testing out some traffic alert equipment and request traffic within 2-3 miles be called even if it may not be a factor. He started calling a couple and the unit was dead on as far as range and altitude. One he called and we saw we later got a traffic advisory on. It was going from 9 to 6 o'clock, was near our altitude, and mustve been faster as the actual mileage was decreasing - but was no factor. The unit doesnt know azimuth, so it sees traffic getting closer in altitude and range - so it warns you of it. Then it was off to a fairly busy area near an outer marker thats usually full of airplanes practicing an ILS. Sure enough there was traffic there, a few of them. The controller told us of their altitudes, we climbed 500' above that and saw them all and watched the unit go to work. It was busy and giving verbal warnings. This was also a chance to check my new audio panels marker beacon receiver, so between approach, unicom, the unit, and my marker beacon, there was a lot coming through the headsets. Then it was off to a less busy airport to buy some gas. Not much traffic, just the occasional jet overhead on an arrival that would light up the Mode S indication. Just after runup there wasn't much going on and we got ready to taxi to the runway. Just then the unit shows some traffic nearby, next we heard 5 clicks, runway lights come on and a position report over unicom of inbound traffic. We head back home and the traffic picks up, it was a clear night and we were able to see all the targets the unit told us of. Not all of these were called by approach as they were not always merging or a factor. Back in the pattern there were two aircraft, the unit picked them up with ease. Overall my copilot/flying buddy were pretty impressed by this unit. We didn't find ourselves staring at it like we thought. One of the aircraft that it warned us of we may never have found visually. It was 4-5 o'clock low and overtaking, at our altitude. The controller called it and then we saw it and climbed, but normally I don't think we'd have seen it. We heard the controller call that airplane to call us as traffic, but he didnt see us until way after we saw him and climbed up. There is a light that says XPNDR Conflict, this stayed lit at all times. I'm not sure it was picking up my transponder. The light also doubles as an over/under temp warning, but it came on right away and never came off. The unit was barely warm to the touch. I kept it at Maximum Detection, which is 1,500' and 5nm, and in Flight mode. There is also Ground mode which only looks above 200', and an Auto mode which starts at Ground and switches to Flight once you gain 500' of altitude. The unit isn't small, but the antenna isn't too tall so you can place it about anywhere on top of the dash. The display is easily readable. It's got a built in altimeter that reads pressure altitude, this seemed to be accurate, and some of the warnings we got were dead on vertically (verified with the controller) and it derives the readout by taking the Mode C of traffic and subtracting the onboard altimeters altitude. I'm not so sure about the Wake Turbulence advisories. The book says if Mode S aircraft are within 2 miles and 1,000' above, you'll get an alert. We didn't get verification from the controller on the altitudes, but they sure looked a lot higher than 1,000' above, more like 5 or 6 thousand above. It is possible that a smaller aircraft nearby had a Mode S transponder, or maybe that high jet had a pretty powerful transponder and fooled the unit into thinking it was closer than it was. The book says this is possible but not likely. That's all I can think of at this time, going to take it on a 10 hour trip next week, this was just a 1.5 hour trip around the area. So far it seems like a good deal for the money. I'm impressed by the level of detail Surecheck has put into this unit, the packaging, and their frequently updated website. I also called them a couple times before I bought with lots of questions, always nice and helpful. They are just getting production back up to speed, apparently a vendor who made a part for this unit bellied up and they had to look elsewhere, or so I've heard. Good luck finding one in the next few weeks, there are a couple around. Chris |
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Very thorough an informative. I solicited some PIREPS on this a while back
so thanks for the PIREP. It sure looks like SureCheck got it right with version #2 (I wonder if they're owned by Microsoft? ![]() Marco "SeeAndAvoid" wrote in message ink.net... Hey all, Just got a new Surecheck Trafficscope VRX (the model with altitude [snip] Chris Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Thanks for the PIREP.
Two questions: 1. Price? 2. Size? Have you thought about yoke-mounting it? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Price: I got it for $995. It lists for $1195, A/C Spruce had it for over
$1,200. When I asked if they matched their competition (Pacific Coast Avionics $995, but out of stock) they said they would, and did. Size: from their website http://surecheck.net/five/avionics/ it says Dimensions Length Height Width 5.36" (136.2 mm) 2.00" (50.8 mm) 3.65" (92.7 mm) Length would be Depth, so yoke mounting would be tough. There are instructions for panel mounting it, but I see a couple problems with that. First you have to get an external antenna, either the one they offer that you put on the inside of you window (kinda strange for a panel mounted avionic) or a fin antenna on the bottom of the airplane. Next, you can't change out the batteries easily if you had to. Next, if power is lost and theres a plug for power plugged in, the unit will NOT operate, even if you have fresh batteries in it. I see this as a flaw, panel mounted or not. The manual reads "Battery power will be bypassed when a plug is inserted into the power jack, even if no current is supplied." Perhaps in the future they could maybe have some kind of indication that power has been lost and is running on battery power. Like my Ipaq, or my Bluetooth GPS, or my old Airmap300. In the future I may mount it to the bottom of the overhang in the top of my panel. It sticks out far enough to do this and the unit has a couple holes on the sides to use thumbscrews and some kind of mounting bracket. I'd have to use their external antenna though. So far though it'd block my top flight instruments, or on the right my fuel gauges. For now it's up top. Chris "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:umvvb.265505$HS4.2369756@attbi_s01... Thanks for the PIREP. Two questions: 1. Price? 2. Size? Have you thought about yoke-mounting it? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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![]() "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:umvvb.265505$HS4.2369756@attbi_s01... Thanks for the PIREP. Two questions: 1. Price? 2. Size? Have you thought about yoke-mounting it? http://surecheck.net/five/avionics/vrx/ |
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"SeeAndAvoid" wrote in message link.net...
Hey all, Just got a new Surecheck Trafficscope VRX (the model with altitude racking) - which I'll refer to as "the unit" - and since theres been some discussion and interest in these types of devices I'll give you my opinions on it. Thanks for the Pirep, very interesting! Sydney |
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Along the same lines, I recently traded my old King transponder for a new
Garmin GTX330. In addition to nice features like pressure altitude readout, count up, count down, flight timers and aural altitude alert, its main advantage is the mode S traffic readout. Coupled with a Garmin 430 or 530 it provides the locations of multiple (transponder equipped) aircraft within a twelve mile radius. The information includes relative altitude, flight vector, and potential conflicts. There was an excellent review in Aviation Consumer within the last few months about the system. After a little use, it's simply amazing how much traffic out there I never saw, even with a careful scan. Even after a traffic alert it was difficult to pick up other aircraft even within a half mile or less. Flying an approach in a busy class C it was also neat seeing planes getting vectored onto the final approach course and watching the spacing. Considering the installed cost with the trade of the old King transponder was less than $3,200 this is one of the best safety investments around. For those of us fortunate to already have a Garmin 430/530 the extra cost of the new transponder was a small price to pay for the added security. |
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