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Old November 28th 03, 05:46 PM
G.R. Patterson III
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David Lesher wrote:

Does garbage really migrate upstream into the expensive toys?


If a dry pump fails, the carbon vanes may turn into powder. When this happens,
the pressure on the instrument side is lower than atmospheric pressure, and you
may wind up with some of this powder being blown back into the instruments. In
normal use, however, garbage does not migrate back upstream.

(And if so, you'd thunk someone would add a inline filter between the
toy and the common vacuum line..)


Some people do this as a preventative measure. Alternatives include prophylactic
replacement of the dry pump to attempt to ensure it never fails, using a wet
pump, and cleaning the instruments before using them after a pump fails. The
filter is cheap insurance.

George Patterson
Some people think they hear a call to the priesthood when what they really
hear is a tiny voice whispering "It's indoor work with no heavy lifting".
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Old November 29th 03, 11:32 PM
Stu Gotts
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Was that with the exchange? I'm looking for an a/p DG, but have
nothing to trade.

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:29:52 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
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What did the Gyro House hit you up for the A/P DG?


$515, plus tax and shipping.


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Old November 30th 03, 01:01 AM
Mike Rapoport
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How old were your gyros? At 10,000 rpm (just a guess) a gyro revolves
600,000,000 times in 1000hrs.

Mike
MU-2

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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A couple of months ago our AI, which had been "coming and going", finally
went. We replaced it with a rebuilt unit from "The Gyro House", which had
the dual effect of getting our autopilot working properly again.

Last month, our DG failed completely and suddenly, after a normal landing

in
Pella, IA. Before that landing it worked, after that landing it didn't.
And the autopilot -- connected to the DG, too -- stopped working again.

So, I've just received a rebuilt unit from the Gyro House. As a

precaution
(I'm assuming some sort of contamination caused the second failure), I've
ordered new vacuum hoses -- enough for my A&P to replace all the hoses,

from
the vacuum pump to the firewall, and from the firewall to the two vacuum
instruments. I'm also having him replace all the filters.

Short of replacing the vacuum pump itself (which is still working fine),

is
there anything else I should be watching?
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"




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Old November 30th 03, 01:03 AM
Tom S.
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"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
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How old were your gyros? At 10,000 rpm (just a guess) a gyro revolves
600,000,000 times in 1000hrs.


I hate to think how many revolutions my 7200RPM hard drive makes in a year
(24/7).


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Old November 30th 03, 01:52 AM
Jay Honeck
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Was that with the exchange? I'm looking for an a/p DG, but have
nothing to trade.


Yep. They charged my card $2100, and they will credit me back the
difference when I return the old DG.

How's THAT for a good incentive to get that thing in the mail? :-)
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old November 30th 03, 03:50 AM
Mike Rapoport
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But you HDD was sealed in a cleanroom. Vacuum gyros are constantly
injesting grit.

Mike
MU-2


"Tom S." wrote in message
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"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
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How old were your gyros? At 10,000 rpm (just a guess) a gyro revolves
600,000,000 times in 1000hrs.


I hate to think how many revolutions my 7200RPM hard drive makes in a year
(24/7).




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Old November 30th 03, 11:56 AM
Stu Gotts
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WOW, sure is! Isn't the new STec DG around $2300?

On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 01:52:49 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
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Was that with the exchange? I'm looking for an a/p DG, but have
nothing to trade.


Yep. They charged my card $2100, and they will credit me back the
difference when I return the old DG.

How's THAT for a good incentive to get that thing in the mail? :-)


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Old November 30th 03, 02:27 PM
Jay Honeck
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WOW, sure is! Isn't the new STec DG around $2300?

Yeah, for some reason electric DGs are outrageously more expensive than
vacuum ones.

Anyone know why?
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old November 30th 03, 04:35 PM
Kevin
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Jay Honeck wrote:
WOW, sure is! Isn't the new STec DG around $2300?



Yeah, for some reason electric DGs are outrageously more expensive than
vacuum ones.

Anyone know why?



Probally a dumb question, but I have to ask. would a GPS not be more
accurate than a DG ?

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Old November 30th 03, 05:23 PM
Jay Honeck
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Probally a dumb question, but I have to ask. would a GPS not be more
accurate than a DG ?


Yes, but many autopilots are "slaved" to a "heading bug" on your DG. This
set-up pre-dates GPS by decades, and is much cheaper than the (seemingly
simpler) GPS-autopilot connection.

Again, there is no logic to this -- but what else is new?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


 




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