Please help -- It's down to the wire

Jay,

How much money has the airp[ort received in Grant Money over the last 20 years?

There are Grant Assurances that could give some headaches to those who want to
shut it down.

Like repaying them with interest!!

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(Larryskydives) wrote:

Jay,

How much money has the airp[ort received in Grant Money over the last 20
years?

There are Grant Assurances that could give some headaches to those who want
to
shut it down.

Like repaying them with interest!!


How about repaying the FAA ALL the proceeds from sale of the airport
land? This is the sword held over Santa Clara County (CA) when they were
trying to shut down Reid-Hillview Airport.

Was your airport turned over to the city as surplus WW-II property? If
so, there are all kinds of encumbrences on any sale of the property.

How much money has the airp[ort received in Grant Money over the last 20
years?

There are Grant Assurances that could give some headaches to those who
want to
shut it down.

Like repaying them with interest!!

While it is true, they cannot close the airport for 20 years after accepting
federal assistance -- and our airport HAS accepted millions in assistance --
there is nothing in the law that prevents them from simply starving the
airport to death.

This is what they are doing now. No money is being spent on taxiways or
hangar maintenance, and the list of problems continues to grow.

Sadly, killing the airport slowly is an easy option for the anti-airport
crowd.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Ya know Jay, I'm really getting tired of your whining.

WHINE: They aren't spending money on the airport

WHINE: They aren't listening to the Airport Commission

WHINE: They are thinking of shutting down the airport

WHINE: My business will be in the dumper if the airport is closed


And of course, YOU are FAR too busy to run for the City Council that sets these
whines. FAR too busy to take the time to be on the board that sets airport
policy.

I don't want to see it any more in RA*. You've had your rant. It is
yours...get off your butt and run for office or not, but don't give us any more
of your "please help" crap unless it is for campaign literature.

Jim

-This is what they are doing now. No money is being spent on taxiways or
-hangar maintenance, and the list of problems continues to grow.



Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

Jay Honeck wrote:
While it is true, they cannot close the airport for 20 years after accepting
federal assistance -- and our airport HAS accepted millions in assistance --
there is nothing in the law that prevents them from simply starving the
airport to death.
This is what they are doing now. No money is being spent on taxiways or
hangar maintenance, and the list of problems continues to grow.

This is basically what the Ocean City Council is doing to our airport.
They barely budget enough money to run the airport, and they complain
continuously about the money they do spend.

--- Jay



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wrote:

Ya know Jay, I'm really getting tired of your whining.

tough.

running for office isn't the only solution.

--
Bob Noel

WHINE: My business will be in the dumper if the airport is closed

Actually, the best thing that could possibly happen to my business (from a
financial standpoint) would be for the airport to close tomorrow. That land
would be MUCH more valuable to my business if they built restaurants and Wal
Marts there.

Fly-in pilots represent less than 5% of my business -- there simply aren't
enough of us to go around.

I'm not doing the aviation thing cuz it's profitable, Jim -- I'm doing it
because I love it.

And of course, YOU are FAR too busy to run for the City Council that sets
these
whines. FAR too busy to take the time to be on the board that sets
airport
policy.

Jim, I've been nominated (and ran) for the airport commission twice -- to no
avail. It was all a political joke.

Why? Because the City Council appoints the airport commissioners -- and
there ain't no way they will ever appoint a rabid airport supporter like me.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

So who "appoints" the Council members? The voters, that's who. You are a
young, dynamic, presentable person. Get your hiney out there and run for the
Council. Remember JC Superstar? "Understand what power is, understand what
glory is."

Jim



"Jay Honeck"
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

-Jim, I've been nominated (and ran) for the airport commission twice -- to no
-avail. It was all a political joke.
-
-Why? Because the City Council appoints the airport commissioners -- and
-there ain't no way they will ever appoint a rabid airport supporter like me.



Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

"Bob Noel" wrote
running for office isn't the only solution.

and it's not always the best solution. Just because you get
elected to a council, that includes 5-6 others by the way,
doesn't mean you'd get any further in accomplishing
anything. Now of course if you were elected to the position
of DICTATOR, yeah, you could actually make some
changes I guess. But 1 out of 7, occasionally speaking up
for a cause important to you? Just watch the other 6 ignore
you as they did when you were just a joe schmoe during
public invited to be heard. I've seen it in our council, or
even on CSPAN at the national level - some guy up there
making a case for something important to his constituents,
and maybe one other person in chambers half awake
listening, and no action or discussion taken on it at all.

My problem with running for our version of the airport
commission, or council - which I've been asked to run for
both, no way - is Id have to tone down what's worked
in the past. I don't have the city holding a lease over my
head, I don't have voters to answer to, I don't have other
commission members telling me not to rock the boat, it's
a pretty good feeling answering to no one and not letting
people influence or water down my opinions. You cant
say that doesn't happen to politicians at all levels. They
can say they aren't influenced by special interests or
whatever, but I'm not buying any of that. It's part of the
game. I'm not playing that game. If I'm going to be
elected or selected and put into a position where I'm
useless, I won't consider the nomination.

I don't consider asking for help whining. What Jay is
dealing with alot of us are dealing with, unfortunately,
more and more. If we lay back and let things go,
we all pay for it in the future. I see nothing wrong in
him asking what's worked or not worked in similar
situations. Getting your name on the list of council
members, while it may make you feel popular for
a little while, doesn't amount to jack squat.

Chris

So who "appoints" the Council members? The voters, that's who. You are a
young, dynamic, presentable person. Get your hiney out there and run for
the
Council. Remember JC Superstar? "Understand what power is, understand
what
glory is."

Now you're scaring me. :-)

BTW: I wouldn't have a rat's-ass chance of winning a council seat. The
last Republican elected in Iowa City was in 1958 -- the year I was born...

This place is as close to single-party rule as you can get outside of Cuba.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"