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Old November 29th 04, 12:43 PM
Almarz
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WOW!!!!!!!!


On 28 Nov 2004 17:28:02 -0800, (Mike Granby) wrote:

Well, the Warrior finally got too small for the family (or rather for
all the equipment that seems to accompany two small children) so I've
traded up to a 1980 Saratoga...

http://www.mikeg.net/plane/n8096J

It used to be a turbo, but that was removed when LoPresti put a
factory engine in it 550 hours ago, and added all their fancy speed
mods. Avionics are solid, too. The panel was completely redone in late
1997, and was actually featured in S-TEC's newsletter...

http://www.s-tec.com/newsletters/app.../saratoga.html

Now I just have to get 15 hours to keep Avemco happy!


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Old November 29th 04, 02:42 PM
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Well, the Warrior finally got too small for the family (or rather for
all the equipment that seems to accompany two small children) so I've
traded up to a 1980 Saratoga...


Congrats, Mike -- awesome plane!
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
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Old November 29th 04, 05:04 PM
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In article ,
Mike Granby wrote:
"mindenpilot" wrote:

How's the transition been?


I'll let you know in a two or three months!


If you're like me it will take at least that long for you to stop double
checking that the gear's down even after you leave the airport.

It's a surreal feeling to be driving down the road and think, "Did I put
the gear down on that last landing???"

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Old November 29th 04, 08:23 PM
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"Mike Granby" wrote:

Well, the Warrior finally got too small for the family (or rather for
all the equipment that seems to accompany two small children) so I've
traded up to a 1980 Saratoga...


Who'd you trade with? How about some financial details, if you don't mind?


http://www.mikeg.net/plane/n8096J


Beauty.

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Dan
C-172RG at BFM


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Old November 29th 04, 09:21 PM
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Mike Granby wrote:

Now I just have to get 15 hours to keep Avemco happy!


That gives you a great excuse to spend all your spare time at the airport.
"Sorry, hon, the leaves will have to wait."

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.
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Old November 30th 04, 06:38 PM
Mike Granby
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"Dan Luke" wrote:

How about some financial details, if you don't mind?


I sold the Warrior for $60K and paid $163K for the Saratoga. On
Trade-a-Plane's evaluator and on AeroPrice, the Warrior came out at
$52K and the Saratoga at about $187K, so I think I got reasonable
deals.

I picked the Saratoga because it had...

(a) a lowish time factory engine, rather than an overhaul by someone
you don't know;

(b) club seating, which my wife wanted so she could slide back to play
with the kids;

(c) backup everything (instruments, vacuum, GPS, GS);

(d) S-TEC 55, so it'll fly without vacuum anyway, plus it had flight
director, altitude preselect and yaw damper, which are also great, but
which again I'd never put in myself.

(e) full LoPresti mods, which are great, but which I'd never pay for
myself, as they're not $30K great;

(f) a three blad prop, which looks cool;

(g) an all-metal panel, which is a silly thing, but I didn't want to
pay $150K+ to stare at a crappy piece of cracked plastic!

I'm hoping once I'm up-to-speed in it that we can get back to doing
weekend trips. My wife and I used to do those about once a month or so
until the kids came; since then, we hadn't been able to, and the
Warrior hasn't really earned its money. Hopefully, the Saratoga will!
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Old November 30th 04, 06:47 PM
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"Mike Granby" wrote:
I picked the Saratoga because it had...


Helluva nice airplane; I'm envious.
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Dan
C-172RG at BFM


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Old December 1st 04, 12:50 AM
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"Mike Granby" wrote in message
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I'm hoping once I'm up-to-speed in it that we can get back to doing
weekend trips. My wife and I used to do those about once a month or so
until the kids came; since then, we hadn't been able to, and the
Warrior hasn't really earned its money. Hopefully, the Saratoga will!


Just curious, how many kids, and what ages?
Mine are 6, 4, and 1.5, and the LOVE flying.

Adam
N7966L
Beech Super III


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Old December 1st 04, 02:52 PM
Mike Granby
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"mindenpilot" wrote:

Just curious, how many kids, and what ages?
Mine are 6, 4, and 1.5, and the LOVE flying.


Two kids at the moment, 6 months and 21 months. They'd both fit in the
Warrior, but I didn't like the idea of the getting everyone in and out
through the single door, and the strollers etc. just made it too
cramped for anything but day trips. Plus, we're planning on a third,
God willing, so the move to the Saratoga was definitely required.

Adam, the oldest, certainly loves, flying, too. Apart from 'mom' and
'dad', 'plane' was his first word. When he hears an engine, he looks
up at the sky, and shouting 'plane!' as he points it out.

He loves going to the airport and watching the comings and goings. He
even pointed out traffic for me when he was in the back of the Warrior
once -- okay, it was a 737 and I'd already seen it, but it was cool to
hear him shout 'plane!' into his headset and for me to turn around and
see him pointing to three o'clock straight at the airliner off my
right wing!
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Old December 2nd 04, 05:02 AM
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"Mike Granby" wrote in message
m...
"mindenpilot" wrote:

Just curious, how many kids, and what ages?
Mine are 6, 4, and 1.5, and the LOVE flying.


Two kids at the moment, 6 months and 21 months. They'd both fit in the
Warrior, but I didn't like the idea of the getting everyone in and out
through the single door, and the strollers etc. just made it too
cramped for anything but day trips. Plus, we're planning on a third,
God willing, so the move to the Saratoga was definitely required.

Adam, the oldest, certainly loves, flying, too. Apart from 'mom' and
'dad', 'plane' was his first word. When he hears an engine, he looks
up at the sky, and shouting 'plane!' as he points it out.

He loves going to the airport and watching the comings and goings. He
even pointed out traffic for me when he was in the back of the Warrior
once -- okay, it was a 737 and I'd already seen it, but it was cool to
hear him shout 'plane!' into his headset and for me to turn around and
see him pointing to three o'clock straight at the airliner off my
right wing!


That's great, Mike!
Again, congratulations, and best wishes!

Adam
N7966L
Beech Super III


 




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