Help - I busted into the Class B SEATAC airspace last night, does anyone have any advice ?

"wtfcfi" wrote in message
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| TK up is for mouth breathing invertebrates who never really learned to
| formulate a map in their head which they compare to the sectional and
| any other nav instruments they may be using.
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| I have found that pilots navigating with GPS most often loose
| situational awareness when using TK up than using North up.

This, from a guy who does not know the difference between 'loose' and
'lose.'

Loser.

("Kobra" wrote)
Hello everyone, my name is Kobra and I am an Airspace Violator.

[Group] "Hello Kobra!"

It has now been two months since my last violation. Let me share my one
and hopefully only story: snip


"Vito, you're blocking."

You see, you don't need to violate Class B to enjoy your flight.

Now ...it's orange peel (mime) time for you. :-o

--
Montblack
"I like to watch"

A friend of mine received a notice of violation from the FCC when he
was caught making a call from his boat, putting the boat name first or
maybe second; in any event, in the wrong order.

He kept trying to explain that this was no big deal, but the notices
kept coming. Finally he wrote a formal letter, with numbered
paragraphs etc., to the effect that the master of subject vessel has
caused a placard to be placed over the communicatins equipment etc, in
addition to which the crew has been instructed in proper
communications procedure etc. After that, he never heard from the FCC
again.

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: www.danford.net/letters.htm#9

see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com
and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com

wtfcfi writes:

Most pilots using GPS as their primary means of navigation don't know
exactly where they are ...

That's true for anyone using navigation. You don't need navigation if
you know where you are.

--
Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly.

Really? I find it makes little difference what mode I use, I do fine either
way. Why should it matter? You either have a mental picture or you don't.


"karl gruber" wrote in message
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"wtfcfi" wrote in message
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TK up is for mouth breathing invertebrates who never really learned to
formulate a map in their head which they compare to the sectional and
any other nav instruments they may be using.

I see people like this all the time, they have to rotate their sectional
chart whenever they change heading or they will get confused. These are
the same people that get lost when flying south because now left on the
map does not mean left in the world.

I have found that pilots navigating with GPS most often loose
situational awareness when using TK up than using North up.

Bla, Bla, Bla,_________________________


Halleluiah!!!

You need to get to FlightSafety immediately and notify them of this!!!

My training with them every 6 months for the past 24 years in various
aircraft, Falcon, Lear, Beech stress TRACK up on the main MFD. No wonder
us
corporate pilots are always lost*************

They need your help!!


Karl

"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
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Really? I find it makes little difference what mode I use, I do fine
either
way. Why should it matter? You either have a mental picture or you
don't.

My impression was that Karl's post was sarcastic. The "Bla, Bla, Bla" at
the beginning was the big clue.

Oh. Well then I missed it. I'm not a morning person and I had to get up at
5 am today, so anything's possible..


"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
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Really? I find it makes little difference what mode I use, I do fine
either
way. Why should it matter? You either have a mental picture or you
don't.

My impression was that Karl's post was sarcastic. The "Bla, Bla, Bla" at
the beginning was the big clue.

"steve mew" wrote in message
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Does anyone have any advice on how I should handle an airspace violation ?
Whats t he procedure and what are the penalties. It was a first time
offense. Here is what I wrote in the NASA Aviation Safety Reporting Form :

It sounds like you took the proper steps afterward. According to the ASRS
immunity policy, you are protected from any FAA penalty (assuming that you
have not been found to commit any other violation within the past five
years, and that you mailed in your ASRS report within ten days of the
event). http://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/immunity_nf.htm

--Gary

wtfcfi ) wrote:

TK up is for mouth breathing invertebrates who never really learned to
formulate a map in their head which they compare to the sectional and
any other nav instruments they may be using.

Interesting that you felt compelled to use a throw-away Usenet alias under
which to post your drivel.

Not man enough to stand behind your comments, eh?

Troll, plain and simple.

--
Peter












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