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Old October 26th 03, 02:00 PM
goy
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I recall seeing back in the '80s sections of highway near some towns in
Nevada that were set up to be runways, as well.

I've always thought the scheme quite reasonable from an operational
standpoint; it would require some education of the driving and flying
public, and may benefit from some 'technology' - which we already have:
radio activated lights that would also drop a barrier across the road to
temporarily stop auto traffic.

And it provides a means of making aviation accessible for thousands of small
towns and communities throughout the country who otherwise cannot afford it.

george

"David Megginson" wrote in message
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I just noticed an interesting airport in the CFS (Canadian A&FD).
I glanced at the airport diagram for CAJ2, Eagle Plains/Wiley, Yukon
Territory, and noticed that the runway was on top of a road. A glance
at the CAUTION section confirmed that:

CAUTION Rwy forms part of Dempster hwy (mile 244)

The runway is 2500x60 gravel (pavement isn't common north of 60), so
basically, the highway just gets wider for a half mile and there's a
wind sock sitting beside it. Has anyone reading this group visited
this airport (either by plane or car)? I wonder how it's signed on
the highway, and how pilots feel about fighting with trucks for the
right of way.


All the best,


David



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Old October 26th 03, 02:13 PM
EDR
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In article RuQmb.7210$d87.5998@okepread05, goy
wrote:

I recall seeing back in the '80s sections of highway near some towns in
Nevada that were set up to be runways, as well.


Brings a whole new meaning to term "airport security", doesn't it?
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Old October 26th 03, 03:34 PM
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Jay Honeck wrote:

I wonder if the Alaskan DOT will sell me one...?


There are probably quite a few Alaskan teenagers who would sell you one. :-)

George Patterson
You can dress a hog in a tuxedo, but he still wants to roll in the mud.
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Old October 27th 03, 01:37 AM
vincent p. norris
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CAUTION Rwy forms part of Dempster hwy (mile 244)

Wow, a rare instance of governmental common sense. Imagine, actually
trusting a pilot to make sure there are not trucks on the highway before
landing!


I've flown the Alaska Highway to Fairbanks, twice. I was told that
aircraft have the right-of-way on it, and I believe, other Alaska
highways, too.

Fortunately I didn't have to test that. But although there were some
cars and trucks on the highway, there was plenty of space between them
for a landing (in May and June).

vince norris
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Old October 27th 03, 01:41 AM
vincent p. norris
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On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:58:30 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

In Alaska there are signs that state "Airplanes Have Right-of-Way On
Road".


I want one of those signs for our upcoming "Backwoods Suite"!

I wonder if the Alaskan DOT will sell me one...?


Hell, Jay, it would be easy enough to make one.

Be sure to shoot a few holes in it, though, or it won't look
authentic.

vince norris
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Old October 27th 03, 09:23 PM
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David Reinhart wrote in message ...
The runway on Gibraltar used to be the same way. Traffic had to be
stopped on the "road" when the"runway" is in use. I don't know if that's
still the case or not, but it was back in the sixties.


It is, but it works.

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Old October 28th 03, 02:40 AM
David Johnson
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I recall riding a bus on a freeway in South Korea some years ago, and was
surprised to pass over a section of it painted with runway markings. I guess
they were planning to use it for military purposes when the North invades.
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Old October 28th 03, 04:35 AM
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David Johnson wrote in message
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I recall riding a bus on a freeway in South Korea some years ago, and was
surprised to pass over a section of it painted with runway markings. I

guess
they were planning to use it for military purposes when the North invades.


Yes, South Korea has several dispersal strips built into the highways, for
use in a war (spreading the aircraft out to the small highway strips makes
it harder to knock them out all at once on the ground). I believe Sweden
has a similar strategy.


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Old October 28th 03, 02:24 PM
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RAF St Athan is like that...except the road goes through
the middle of the runway. We also have some airstrips which
have public footpaths going across them.

It has on at least one occasion proved fatal:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y4F252C56

Sometimes things can get a bit close.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?E3B252C56

Paul

"Big John" wrote in message
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Have been stationed at a number of Air Force Bases that had roads
going around the end of the R/W across the overrun. They had red and
green lights on the road and if a bird was landing or taking off, the
red light was on and traffic stopped. If green, all traffic moved on
road.



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Old November 3rd 03, 02:12 AM
randall g
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:14:04 GMT, David Megginson
wrote:

I just noticed an interesting airport in the CFS (Canadian A&FD).
I glanced at the airport diagram for CAJ2, Eagle Plains/Wiley, Yukon
Territory, and noticed that the runway was on top of a road. A glance
at the CAUTION section confirmed that:

CAUTION Rwy forms part of Dempster hwy (mile 244)

The runway is 2500x60 gravel (pavement isn't common north of 60), so
basically, the highway just gets wider for a half mile and there's a
wind sock sitting beside it. Has anyone reading this group visited
this airport (either by plane or car)? I wonder how it's signed on
the highway, and how pilots feel about fighting with trucks for the
right of way.




I have been there, by car, in 1986. On the highway are signs that say
"Watch For Aircraft Using Highway". This road is not at all busy so I am
sure there is not much trouble with right of way.

Here is a picture, taken from the north looking roughly south. There was
a small plane parked there that day.

http://www.telemark.net/~randallg/ea...ns_airport.jpg






 




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