Slavery In Aviation

If the place where I work is telling me to work hour's for free, what
should I do ?

I am worried that working for free is illegal, immoral, unethical, and
unprofessional, and I am also worried that it exposes me to the possibility
of an IRS audit as I could be accused of getting paid "under the table"
(tax evasion etc.).

I appreciate any replie's.

"Bob Dole" wrote in message
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If the place where I work is telling me to work hour's for free, what
should I do ?

I am worried that working for free is illegal, immoral, unethical, and
unprofessional, and I am also worried that it exposes me to the
possibility
of an IRS audit as I could be accused of getting paid "under the table"
(tax evasion etc.).

I appreciate any replie's.

Yes, it's all that and more. Welcome to aviation enlightenment.

in article y4Erb.158869$e01.564060@attbi_s02, Bob Dole at
wrote on 11/9/03 8:28 PM:


If the place where I work is telling me to work hour's for free, what
should I do ?

Correct their grammar immediately.

On 2003-11-09 20:28:42 -0800, (null) said:

If the place where I work is telling me to work hour's for free, what
should I do ?

What is the definition of "work"?

Most flight instructors spend about as much time answering phones, generating business, and preparing for lessons (not billable time) as they spend actually teaching and flying (billable time). I don't think anyone has a problem with this.

If we're talking about things like, "Hey, you CFI doing nothing, get over there and paint that fence!", and you're not getting paid for it, then there's a definite problem.

"Bob Dole" wrote in message
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If the place where I work is telling me to work hour's for free, what
should I do ?

First, please clarify what it is that they are asking you to do free, and to
what extent. Fly with a student? Intro flights? paperwork? Answer
phones?

"Bob Dole" wrote in message
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If the place where I work is telling me to work hour's for free, what
should I do ?

Tell them "one Viagra ad is enough!"

p.s.- loved you on Saturday night live!

If the place where I work is telling me to work hour's for free, what
should I do ?

Whatever you want to do.

I am worried that working for free is illegal,
No it isn't

immoral,
No it isn't

unethical,
No it isn't

unprofessional,
No it isn't

and I am also worried that it exposes me to the possibility
of an IRS audit as I could be accused of getting paid "under the table"
But you're not earning anything. Why worry about an IRS audit?

I appreciate any replie's.
You're welcome

Perhaps you would care to be more specific? Then we may be able to give
more helpful responses.

--
Tony Roberts )
PP-ASEL
VFR-OTT - Night
Cessna 172H

"Bob Dole" wrote in message
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If the place where I work is telling me to work hour's for free, what
should I do ?

Depends on what you are being asked to do and what you agreed to do when you
took the job. There is ample precedent of the courts awarding back pay and
benefits to employees treated in a way other than the employer claimed they
would be treated, but you'd have to be able to show that disparity in
detail.

If you don't like the deal, your best bet is to just find a different
employer. Make sure the next job you get has a clear contract stipulating
what you will do and what you'll receive for that work. Court cases drag on
forever, and usually it's the lawyers who wind up getting the most money out
of them.

In any case, I don't see how you can call it "slavery". You are free to
leave, right?

I am worried that working for free is illegal, immoral, unethical, and
unprofessional,

Working for free is none of those things. Being *forced* to work for free
is probably all of those things, but it's not clear to me that that's what's
going on in your case. Are they threatening you or someone you know with
bodily harm? Extorting you? I'm guessing not.

and I am also worried that it exposes me to the possibility
of an IRS audit as I could be accused of getting paid "under the table"
(tax evasion etc.).

For the IRS to prove tax evasion, they'd have to prove you received taxable
income you didn't report. Since you're not receiving taxable income for the
work you're not getting paid for, they wouldn't be able to do that.

Pete

"Bob Dole" wrote in message
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If the place where I work is telling me to work hour's for free, what
should I do ?


Quit bitching and go be "self-employed", that's what your should do. It's
the mature alternative.

"Tony Roberts" wrote in message
...
If the place where I work is telling me to work hour's for free, what
should I do ?

Whatever you want to do.

I am worried that working for free is illegal,
No it isn't

immoral,
No it isn't

unethical,
No it isn't

unprofessional,
No it isn't

and I am also worried that it exposes me to the possibility
of an IRS audit as I could be accused of getting paid "under the table"
But you're not earning anything. Why worry about an IRS audit?

I appreciate any replie's.
You're welcome

Perhaps you would care to be more specific? Then we may be able to give
more helpful responses.

Maybe they're having him work on his writing skills.