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I was watching Discovery Wings when I saw a spot about the CAP
celebrating it's anniversary and I saw a scene with an Airvan in CAP colors (lots of bright red and blue). I have seen nothing in the aviation publications about this aircraft. Does anyone here know anything about it beyond what is on the Airvan-USA website regarding costs, handling and attributes of the plane? Thank you in advance. John Pelchat |
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I have not flown it, but have looked over it a couple of times. I am told by
pilots that it handles like a big 172, is gentle and easy to fly. Very roomy. Impressive aricraft, in the class of Cessna 206. cheers...pix "John Pelchat" wrote in message om... I was watching Discovery Wings when I saw a spot about the CAP celebrating it's anniversary and I saw a scene with an Airvan in CAP colors (lots of bright red and blue). I have seen nothing in the aviation publications about this aircraft. Does anyone here know anything about it beyond what is on the Airvan-USA website regarding costs, handling and attributes of the plane? Thank you in advance. John Pelchat |
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(John Galban) wrote in message . com...
(John Pelchat) wrote in message . com... I was watching Discovery Wings when I saw a spot about the CAP celebrating it's anniversary and I saw a scene with an Airvan in CAP colors (lots of bright red and blue). I have seen nothing in the aviation publications about this aircraft. Does anyone here know anything about it beyond what is on the Airvan-USA website regarding costs, handling and attributes of the plane? Thank you in advance. Is this what you're looking for? http://www.gippsaero.com/articleZone...icleZoneID=141 Saw it at Copperstate and was impressed John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180) Yeah, I'm kinda of impressed too, but to date I have not seen anything except on the web about the airplane. Could you share some of your reactions to what you saw at Copperstate? Thanks John |
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John,
I did a review of the Gippsland Airvan for Aviation Consumer a couple of years ago. In general, it is designed to compete with the Cessna 206/207, primarily in the third world. It has an O-540 Lycoming engine derated to 275 hp due to noise requirements by reducing rpm from the normal 300 hp setting at 2,700 rpm. It can seat 8 people although there is the usual fuel/pax tradeoff. The c.g. is about as long as that of a Cessna 206. It is slower than a 206, yet I liked it because the crew and pax seating was more comfortable, there is a sliding door that can be opened in flight for phototgraphy or skydiving or what have you (the door on the 206 has to be removed before flight) the nose does not block forward visibility in a climb or when flying at loitering power settings and the cabin floor is flat. It also sits level on the ground. It is essentailly a next generation Cessna 207. Hanlding is satisfactory for an air barge, quicker than that slug, the Cherokee 6, but not as quick as the Cessna 206. Flight deck is nicer than a 206, with doors for each crew member. I found that I liked it a great deal and if faced with a choice of 206 versus Airvan, I would probably lean toward the Airvan if cruise speed were not a concern. You may be able to get a copy of the review at the Aviation Consumer website. All the best, Rick (John Pelchat) wrote in message . com... I was watching Discovery Wings when I saw a spot about the CAP celebrating it's anniversary and I saw a scene with an Airvan in CAP colors (lots of bright red and blue). I have seen nothing in the aviation publications about this aircraft. Does anyone here know anything about it beyond what is on the Airvan-USA website regarding costs, handling and attributes of the plane? Thank you in advance. John Pelchat |
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(John Pelchat) wrote in message . com...
Is this what you're looking for? http://www.gippsaero.com/articleZone...icleZoneID=141 Saw it at Copperstate and was impressed John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180) Yeah, I'm kinda of impressed too, but to date I have not seen anything except on the web about the airplane. Could you share some of your reactions to what you saw at Copperstate? Thanks Well, I didn't get to fly it, but it looked like a great backcountry hauler. Very roomy cabin with removable seats. I don't recall all of the performance specs, but I recall that it was not exceedingly fast, but could carry a heavy load. There was a thread about it on r.a.p a few months ago. Do a Google search for the subject : New Australian airplane and you should find a post from Rick Durden, who actually flew it. John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180) |
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In rec.aviation.piloting John Pelchat wrote:
I was watching Discovery Wings when I saw a spot about the CAP celebrating it's anniversary and I saw a scene with an Airvan in CAP colors (lots of bright red and blue). I have seen nothing in the aviation publications about this aircraft. Does anyone here know anything about it beyond what is on the Airvan-USA website regarding costs, handling and attributes of the plane? I am in CAP in Colorado. I got to fly one! This one was configured for pilot and copilot and 9 passengers. It has a HUGE cargo door... we rode a motorcycle up the ramp and into the airplane. I own a 1/4 share of a Cessna-206... the only thing lacking in the AirVan is speed... cruise is about 105 KIAS. They were at Buena Vista, Colorado, doing a demo to CAP, and doing high altitude operations. It flys amazingly like a 180hp supercub... roll down the runway to 45 KIAS, rotate and climb at 60 KIAS. Very docile, very forgiving. It does AWESOME "canyon turns"... the emergency maneuver we teach in Idaho to turn away from rising terrain and fly down-canyon. Jer/ "Flight instruction and mountain flying are my vocation!" Eberhard -- Jer/ (Slash) Eberhard, Mountain Flying Aviation, LTD, Ft Collins, CO, USA CELL/VM: 970 231-6325 CELL Message: (100 char) EMAIL: WEB: http://www.frii.net/~jer C-206 N9513G, CFII Airplane & Glider, FAA-DEN Aviation Safety Counselor CAP-CO Mission&Aircraft CheckPilot, BM218 HAM N0FZD, 197 Young Eagles! |
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Pilot, copilot and 9 pax????
The one I flew had a total of 8 seats. Where did they put an additional 3? For that matter, where would they have put one more unless it was in the aisle? All of the Airvans I've seen have no more than 8 seats. You must have had things pulled way back to be at 105 KTAS, or was that KIAS? The one I flew cruised at about 125-130 KTAS. It is a very good airplane. Airline that runs them in Central America reported that pax preferred them to the Cessna 206s and 207s. All the best, Rick wrote in message ... In rec.aviation.piloting John Pelchat wrote: I was watching Discovery Wings when I saw a spot about the CAP celebrating it's anniversary and I saw a scene with an Airvan in CAP colors (lots of bright red and blue). I have seen nothing in the aviation publications about this aircraft. Does anyone here know anything about it beyond what is on the Airvan-USA website regarding costs, handling and attributes of the plane? I am in CAP in Colorado. I got to fly one! This one was configured for pilot and copilot and 9 passengers. It has a HUGE cargo door... we rode a motorcycle up the ramp and into the airplane. I own a 1/4 share of a Cessna-206... the only thing lacking in the AirVan is speed... cruise is about 105 KIAS. They were at Buena Vista, Colorado, doing a demo to CAP, and doing high altitude operations. It flys amazingly like a 180hp supercub... roll down the runway to 45 KIAS, rotate and climb at 60 KIAS. Very docile, very forgiving. It does AWESOME "canyon turns"... the emergency maneuver we teach in Idaho to turn away from rising terrain and fly down-canyon. Jer/ "Flight instruction and mountain flying are my vocation!" Eberhard |
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Rick Durden wrote:
Pilot, copilot and 9 pax???? The one I flew had a total of 8 seats. Where did they put an additional 3? For that matter, where would they have put one more unless it was in the aisle? All of the Airvans I've seen have no more than 8 seats. You must have had things pulled way back to be at 105 KTAS, or was that KIAS? The one I flew cruised at about 125-130 KTAS. It is a very good airplane. Airline that runs them in Central America reported that pax preferred them to the Cessna 206s and 207s. All the best, Rick Best looking flight deck of any plane i have seen. It would make one hell of a private plane if you were not in a hurry. |
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Kevin wrote in message news:PBsCb.98779$_M.518176@attbi_s54...
Rick Durden wrote: Pilot, copilot and 9 pax???? The one I flew had a total of 8 seats. Where did they put an additional 3? For that matter, where would they have put one more unless it was in the aisle? All of the Airvans I've seen have no more than 8 seats. You must have had things pulled way back to be at 105 KTAS, or was that KIAS? The one I flew cruised at about 125-130 KTAS. It is a very good airplane. Airline that runs them in Central America reported that pax preferred them to the Cessna 206s and 207s. All the best, Rick Best looking flight deck of any plane i have seen. It would make one hell of a private plane if you were not in a hurry. Gotta agree! I have only seen one picture of the panel; it looked intelligent and utilitarian (unless we get into an arguement regarding overhead switches). I liked the picture so much I added it to my Webshots screensaver (grin). Based on the limited amount of material I have read so far, I also think it would make a great private plane for hauling the family around. Best John |
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