Presidential TFR @ Kill Devil Hills

In article ,
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("MikeM" wrote)
Bush is an IDIOT!


Bush has the great (double) misfortune of being:

1. One of our least intelligent Presidents.
2. Following one of the most intelligent Presidents this country has ever
had.

How did you arrive at that?
And what exactly are the standards to base intelligence of Presidents?
What are the benchmarks? and who decides them? How is it measured?
What types of intelligence are measured? Which ones are important?
What do you base your assesment on? opinion? or data?
Does the secret service give IQ tests and make them public?

My opinion..............

Is it intelligent to let your biological urges override your common
sense and betray your wife, to do it while working? to do it while
in the house of the people? to do it in a place of honor that was
entrusted to you by millions- the oval office? To make yourself vunerable
to blackmail?
Sounds pretty rock stupid to me. People make mistakes though....dont they?
Stupid is as stupid does, oh yeah, I forgot...."That all depends on what *is*
is?" Its how we USE our intelligence. If someone is extremely intelligent,
what good does it do anyone if they are completly self-serving? and put
themselves first over the country?
Im glad that "most intelligent" President is gone, and hopefully no more like
him.

I agree, Clinton will not be looked at kindly by history and deservedly so.

In article ,
(Mutts) wrote:

I agree, Clinton will not be looked at kindly by history and deservedly
so.

Hey, at least he made President Carter look good.

--
Bob Noel

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 08:27:50 -0800, R. Hubbell wrote:

next president will be more enlightened. And keep up the pressure on
how silly they are in the press and support AOPA.

I got news for you, AOPA doesn't care about you and I and our flying
freedoms. I know of an aircraft that was in the process of being stolen
and the local police let the guy go. The owner called AOPA to let them
know how well this new system was working and they basically told him that
they didn't care and to take it up with someone else.

So you see, AOPA doesn't really care about silly rules unless it affects
them I suppose. They certainly aren't trying to maintain a list of
failures that they could then suggest better ways of doing things.
Homeland security is a joke and the AOPA doesn't care.

"R. Hubbell" wrote in message
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:05:39 GMT Dave S wrote:

Ok.. at the risk of interrupting the partisanship here...

What makes you think that if the next prez is a Democrat that the SS..
er Secret Service will not still insist on a 60 mile diameter bubble?


You're really trying to spoil all the fun! We can only hope that the
next president will be more enlightened.

Not unless we gat an alien being from another planet in the race.

"Morgans" wrote in message
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"Montblack" wrote

2. Following one of the most intelligent Presidents this country has
ever
had.
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Montblack

You are kidding, right?

We haven't had an intelligent president since Grover Cleveland.

in article , Big John at
wrote on 12/16/03 12:32 AM:

What would happen if 500 GA birds showed up towing banners saying "Go
home Mr presiden, we want to fly"?

Do you think they have enough F-16's and weapons to shoot down them
all and if that happened what would those idiots (spelled Liberals) do
to him? He would be smoke politically after they got through in the
liberal press.

John, if the U.S. military shot down 500 GA planes for doing nothing more
than towing banners, and Liberals chose to criticize it, I wouldn't call
them idiots, I'd call them decent and sensible human beings.

in article , Tom Sixkiller at
wrote on 12/16/03 5:33 AM:


"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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In article , Big John
wrote:

What would happen if 500 GA birds showed up towing banners saying "Go
home Mr presiden, we want to fly"?

they'd get flamed for the spelling errors?

;-)
Imagine if something DID happen; can you imagine how CNN, ABC, etc., would
handle it?

Probably something about Bush being "too dumb to appreciate proper security
measures"...

Are you able to cite a single instance of CNN, ABC, et al ever calling the
President "dumb"?

in article JsHDb.566151$Tr4.1535566@attbi_s03, Michael 182 at
wrote on 12/16/03 9:40 AM:


As an interesting aside, George McGovern, who ran against Nixon (and was
trounced, of course) on a strong anti-war platform during Vietnam, was a war
hero during WWII. During his campaign he expressley refused to allow his
military service to be discussed, or, more importantly, compared to Nixon's.

I highly doubt it would have swayed very many voters even if they'd known of
McGovern's war record. Much is made during campaigns of whether a candidate
served or avoided service, but voters have usually already made up their
minds regardless.

Besides, if service in wartime were the benchmark for being an electable
candidate, we'd have a pitifully small pool to draw from.

in article et, Steven P.
McNicoll at wrote on 12/16/03 11:09 AM:


"Kevin McCue" wrote in message
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No problem with his being in the Air Guard. Too bad he didn't do it
honorably.


What do you find dishonorable about Guard service?

http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/document.htm

The documents on this page aren't totally conclusive, but it would appear
from the available evidence that Mr. Bush was AWOL.

Maybe I was unclear. I said there was some skepticism, which there certainly
is. I believe if you look at my previous post I was supporting Bush, which,
by the way, I almost never do on any other issue. If that wasn't clear I
wrote it poorly. Given that I never served in the military I am in no
position, nor am I questioning Bush's service. Or anyone else's.

Michael


"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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In article JsHDb.566151$Tr4.1535566@attbi_s03, "Michael 182"
wrote:

Everything can be analyzed on a continuium. Yes, President Bush did
server
in the National Guard. There is some question about his motives, hence
the
skepticism.

Several of my uncles joined rather than waiting to be drafted.
I guess you want to question their motives...

--
Bob Noel