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Old December 19th 03, 02:32 PM
Tom Sixkiller
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Mark opined

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote:
Your solution mixes civil and criminal law...a really bad situation.


Yes, but the very concept of "punitive damages" is already an
unhealthy mixture of civil and criminal law.


No, it is not.

Reserving the punitive
damages for the taxpayers will help to restore the punitive aspect
to its proper sphere.


....and make sure the the deep-pockets cases become even more prolific.




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Old December 19th 03, 02:36 PM
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"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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Jim,

Allrighty, then. Try Seven Seventyseven?


Oh, the one where the finally also used fly-by-wire like Airbus after
bad-mouthing the concept for years? Innovation?


Fly-by-wire WAS a bad idea for a LONGGGGG time until they got the kinks
worked out.


This is fun g

Note: My comments are tongue-in-cheek.


Hopefully not foot-in-mouth!!



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Old December 19th 03, 02:38 PM
Tom Sixkiller
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Jim,

Two words: Seven Sixtyseven.


Are those the ones they bribed into the USAF tanker deal even though
Airbus was cheaper? That hardly counts as innovative!


Cheaper to buy (after MASSIVE subsidy from the taxpayers...an now Boeing is
getting into that as well), but more expensive to operate (since it was
designed for state run airlines).



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Old December 19th 03, 03:23 PM
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Ranks right up there with having your embassy's 'high security rooms'
constructed by a foreign government...
Denny
"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Thomas Borchert wrote:

Are those the ones they bribed into the USAF tanker deal even though
Airbus was cheaper?


I doubt they had to bribe anyone. Having your military use combat gear

made by a
foreign country is a *really* bad idea.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually

said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."



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Old December 19th 03, 04:01 PM
Thomas Borchert
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Tom,

Fly-by-wire WAS a bad idea for a LONGGGGG time until they got the kinks
worked out.


Says who? Or what?

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Old December 19th 03, 04:01 PM
Thomas Borchert
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Tom,

(after MASSIVE subsidy from the taxpayers...an now Boeing is
getting into that as well)


Uh, now? Those defense contracts have been coming for decades.

but more expensive to operate (since it was
designed for state run airlines).


Huh?

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Old December 19th 03, 04:01 PM
Thomas Borchert
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G.R.,

Are those the ones they bribed into the USAF tanker deal even though
Airbus was cheaper?


I doubt they had to bribe anyone. Having your military use combat gear made by a
foreign country is a *really* bad idea.


You may want to look into the recent firings at Boeing and the relation to the
tanker contract, which, AFAIK, has been put on hold because of that.

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Old December 19th 03, 06:02 PM
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Thomas Borchert wrote:

Are those the ones they bribed into the USAF tanker deal even though
Airbus was cheaper?


I doubt they had to bribe anyone. Having your military use combat gear made by a
foreign country is a *really* bad idea.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."
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Old January 2nd 04, 05:58 PM
Mark
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote:
Mark opined

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote:
Your solution mixes civil and criminal law...a really bad situation.


Yes, but the very concept of "punitive damages" is already an
unhealthy mixture of civil and criminal law.


No, it is not.


It is, if you believe that "compensation" should be in the sphere of civil
law, while "punishment" should remain in the sphere of criminal law.
Only the State can impose criminal penalties. "Punitive" damages
should only be imposed as a criminal sanction, and should require a
criminal trial--with appropriate rules of evidence and procedure.




 




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