We lost a Caravan -9 dead

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/01/17/plane_erie_040117

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 04:05:33 GMT, "Marc Lattoni"
wrote:

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/01/17/plane_erie_040117

All I get is "Connection Refused by www.cbc.ca ".

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Marc Lattoni alerts:http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/01/17/plane_erie_040117

"A boat from the Detroit area was also sent to the crash site, and Canadian
military officials helped co-ordinate the operation. But helicopters from CFB
Trenton were unable to fly to Pelee Island because of a winter storm. "

Think the weather was kind of bad for flying?
Whatever investigation turns up, we're safe and warm while hearing the sorry
news. My heart goes out to all the victims and their loved ones.

http://apnews.excite.com/article/200...D8051KK80.html

The airline president says the weather probably had nothing to do with it.
He feels the Caravan can handle any kind of weather.

Other pilots report that it was 20 degrees and freezing drizzle at the time
with low ceilings.

If equipped with de-icing boots the Caravan is certified for known ice, but
Cessna says that the plane should not be flown for more than a few minutes
in icing conditions even so.

We lost one a few years back due to icing.


"C J Campbell" wrote in message
...
http://apnews.excite.com/article/200...D8051KK80.html

The airline president says the weather probably had nothing to do with it.
He feels the Caravan can handle any kind of weather.

Other pilots report that it was 20 degrees and freezing drizzle at the
time
with low ceilings.

If equipped with de-icing boots the Caravan is certified for known ice,
but
Cessna says that the plane should not be flown for more than a few minutes
in icing conditions even so.

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 23:18:14 -0800, "C J Campbell"
wrote:

http://apnews.excite.com/article/200...D8051KK80.html

The airline president says the weather probably had nothing to do with it.
He feels the Caravan can handle any kind of weather.

Other pilots report that it was 20 degrees and freezing drizzle at the time
with low ceilings.

If equipped with de-icing boots the Caravan is certified for known ice, but
Cessna says that the plane should not be flown for more than a few minutes
in icing conditions even so.



According to some pilots the airport he was departing has few
services, including de-icing. No disrepect to those involved this is a
brutal loss.

"Cockpit Colin" wrote in message ...
We lost one a few years back due to icing.


"C J Campbell" wrote in message
...
http://apnews.excite.com/article/200...D8051KK80.html

The airline president says the weather probably had nothing to do with it.
He feels the Caravan can handle any kind of weather.

Other pilots report that it was 20 degrees and freezing drizzle at the
time
with low ceilings.

If equipped with de-icing boots the Caravan is certified for known ice,
but
Cessna says that the plane should not be flown for more than a few minutes
in icing conditions even so.




An Alaskan bush operator brought his Caravan through here a few
years ago, on his way to trade it off on a PC-12. Said the Caravan
wouldn't carry ice worth a hoot, making him turn back too often.

Dan

"Jordan" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 23:18:14 -0800, "C J Campbell"
wrote:

According to some pilots the airport he was departing has few
services, including de-icing. No disrepect to those involved this is a
brutal loss.

The pilot took off from Pelee Island, which has NO services at all
(according to the Canadian Flight Supplement.)
I'm from Chatham, which is maybe 30 minutes flight from the island.
This is the second caravan lost in these parts in the past few years. Also,
a Cessna 172 was beat up pretty bad on the island about 3 years back. Pelee
Island is known for nasty winds and weather.

One of the local Detroit stations, WDIV, had extensive coverage of
this story as it was unfolding.

They covered the story without sensationalism or much speculation,
with telephone interviews of the US Coast Guard chapter at Grosse
Isle, and the Ontario Provincial Police.

Meterologist Paul Gross had a surprisingly ACCURATE description of
icing hazards in a low dewpoint spread (which was 0 at the time), and
supercooled droplets freezing and changing the shape of the airfoil.
The weather was okay for VFR flight earlier in the day, but was
degrading. Icing was the most popular speculation for the cause of
the crash shortly after it occurred.

ADDS was predicting high icing potential ( 75%) for the region on the
day of the accident. We had to cancel a flight even though the clouds
appeared to be just a thin broken layer.


"C J Campbell" wrote in message ...
http://apnews.excite.com/article/200...D8051KK80.html

The airline president says the weather probably had nothing to do with it.
He feels the Caravan can handle any kind of weather.

Other pilots report that it was 20 degrees and freezing drizzle at the time
with low ceilings.

If equipped with de-icing boots the Caravan is certified for known ice, but
Cessna says that the plane should not be flown for more than a few minutes
in icing conditions even so.