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I picked up a 1989 book in our local swap shop called "Unfriendly Skies" by
Captain "X" and Reynolds Dodson. It's an "as told to" about the deregulated airline industry and a pretty good read. It sounds like not much has changed in the last 10 years except the airlines are losing even more money. Some good almost crashing stories by the Captain. Boy, does this guy hate AOPA and little airplanes! He makes a big deal about the then recent fight over the creation of Class B and C airspace and how AOPA fought the transponder requirement. I'm a little shocked to hear this. I like crossing that invisible magenta line and knowing the everyone I meet for the next few miles will probably have one and be talking. Has anybody else read this book? -- Roger Long |
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![]() Roger Long wrote: Has anybody else read this book? Yeah. It's one of the very few books I've read that I threw away. George Patterson Battle, n; A method of untying with the teeth a political knot that would not yield to the tongue. |
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Do you like airline stories?
If so, you might want to look for a book called: Debunking the Myth. It was written by an ex-Delta VP that was at the time breaking the silence on how Delta was no longer a happy family run business. But as we all know, none of the airlines are happy families anymore. David |
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In article ,
"Roger Long" om wrote: I picked up a 1989 book in our local swap shop called "Unfriendly Skies" by Captain "X" and Reynolds Dodson. It's an "as told to" about the deregulated airline industry and a pretty good read. It sounds like not much has changed in the last 10 years except the airlines are losing even more money. Some good almost crashing stories by the Captain. Boy, does this guy hate AOPA and little airplanes! He makes a big deal about the then recent fight over the creation of Class B and C airspace and how AOPA fought the transponder requirement. I'm a little shocked to hear this. I like crossing that invisible magenta line and knowing the everyone I meet for the next few miles will probably have one and be talking. Has anybody else read this book? -- Roger Long I am a veteran of that battle -- its intent was to put everybody under "positive control," which the system could never handle. At that time, there was a coterie of seven who ruled FAA -- two of whom were Keith Potts, then head of ATC and Herman McClure, then head of FAA Western Div. They had no use for the Little Guy, and wanted to push us off the map. Eventually, we formed a petition to reassign Potts -- McCluire was also reassigned. |
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message ...
Roger Long wrote: Has anybody else read this book? Yeah. It's one of the very few books I've read that I threw away. George, Why so? Sydney |
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![]() Snowbird wrote: Why so? I don't remember all of the details, but there was a general attitude of "what a great pilot I am" exemplified by the story in which ATC tells him he can have any altitude he wants 'cause the weather's so bad nobody else is flying. There's the outright hatred for GA exemplified by the statement that everyone calls the lower sky "Indian Country" 'cause we're all out to get people like him. And there's the fact that I really despise anonymous authors. Normally I will give a book away if I simply don't intend to read it again. I found this one poisonous enough to send it to the landfill. George Patterson Battle, n; A method of untying with the teeth a political knot that would not yield to the tongue. |
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
... .... There's the outright hatred for GA exemplified by the statement that everyone calls the lower sky "Indian Country" 'cause we're all out to get people like him. I thought "Indian Country" was a reference to all the little planes being named after tribes. Well, the Piper planes anyway. Oh well. Live and learn. |
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I agree with George, the book was anti-GA in a big way. The impression was that
airline pilots in general feel the same but that is not the case. Most have some experience and many own light planes and are very pro- GA. |
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![]() Orval Fairbairn wrote: At that time, there was a coterie of seven who ruled FAA -- two of whom were Keith Potts, then head of ATC and Herman McClure, then head of FAA Western Div. They had no use for the Little Guy, and wanted to push us off the map. It would not surprise me at all to find that this book is a collection of anecdotes assembled by one of these guys masquerading as a pilot. George Patterson Battle, n; A method of untying with the teeth a political knot that would not yield to the tongue. |
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My Hat's off to you Orval, if you fought the "keep little airplanes
away from the airports their fuel taxes paid for" war. IIRC, airlines in the past were nearly exempt from fuel tax, so most inter-city airports were largely funded and built by General Aviation. But airline management with the FAA nodding along, wanted to ban GA entirely from those airports. I remember that AOPA was fighting against the expense aspect that a transponder and later mode C would impact on its members. (remember Roger, traffic was not as dense in many areas as it is today, the need for ATC seperation was not as obvious as it is today.) The Deregulation act of 78', however, has turned the Orient Express of the skies into Amtrack. The golden years are over as long as long as gov looks at aviation purely as a money-getter. And that's a foolish outlook when you consider that all of aviation (including aerospace) has only returned 2% on investment, historically. You wouldn't put your money in a S&L with that kind of dismal return. This country's big enough to build new reliever airports everywhere. But every time we put our hard-earned dollars into an aviation trust fund or Soc Sec system it just gets raided by the political flakes. Scotty, please beam me back to the thirties... pacplyer - out Orval Fairbairn wrote in message ... In article , "Roger Long" om wrote: I picked up a 1989 book in our local swap shop called "Unfriendly Skies" by Captain "X" and Reynolds Dodson. It's an "as told to" about the deregulated airline industry and a pretty good read. It sounds like not much has changed in the last 10 years except the airlines are losing even more money. Some good almost crashing stories by the Captain. Boy, does this guy hate AOPA and little airplanes! He makes a big deal about the then recent fight over the creation of Class B and C airspace and how AOPA fought the transponder requirement. I'm a little shocked to hear this. I like crossing that invisible magenta line and knowing the everyone I meet for the next few miles will probably have one and be talking. Has anybody else read this book? -- Roger Long I am a veteran of that battle -- its intent was to put everybody under "positive control," which the system could never handle. At that time, there was a coterie of seven who ruled FAA -- two of whom were Keith Potts, then head of ATC and Herman McClure, then head of FAA Western Div. They had no use for the Little Guy, and wanted to push us off the map. Eventually, we formed a petition to reassign Potts -- McCluire was also reassigned. |
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