Pilot's 2nd Fatal Accident

On Tue, 18 May 2004 06:51:25 -0400, Aardvark
wrote:


... Ghyrn Loveness, 20, was flying a Cessna 170 when he crashed. KOMO 4
News has learned this his second fatal plane crash...

Ya can't keep a good boy down.

General Francisco Franco is still dead.

A pilot's second fatality... it's amazing what modern medicine can do now..
die once.. resurrected.. to die again...

Sorry to hear about the accident though...

even when headlines are misleading..

BT

"Aardvark" wrote in message
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SUNDAY'S Plane Crash Is Pilot's 2nd Fatal Accident
KOMO - Seattle,WA,USA
... Ghyrn Loveness, 20, was flying a Cessna 170 when he crashed. KOMO 4
News has learned this is the second fatal plane crash Loveness has been
involved in. ...
http://www.komotv.com/stories/31286.htm

in article , C J Campbell at
wrote on 5/18/04 7:40 AM:


It seems unfair to say that this is the pilot's second fatal accident when
his plane suffered a power failure and he was not even at the controls when
it crashed.

Indeed. The PIC of that flight was Loveness' father, meaning that the young
man bears absolutely no responsibility for whatever happened, be it engine
failure or otherwise.

As for this latest accident, we don't know much yet, but it's worth noting
that "see and avoid" is the responsibility of not just one pilot, but ALL
pilots involved. It may turn out that this kid is a perfectly competent
pilot who is merely incredibly unlucky (or incredibly lucky, depending on
how you choose to look at it).

On Tue, 18 May 2004 21:20:22 GMT, Bela P. Havasreti
wrote:


(and yes, I own a C-170B and am instrument rated).

Bela P. Havasreti

Wanna buy a Tactair?

Don

"Philip Sondericker" wrote in message
...
in article , C J Campbell at
wrote on 5/18/04 7:40 AM:


It seems unfair to say that this is the pilot's second fatal accident
when
his plane suffered a power failure and he was not even at the controls
when
it crashed.

Indeed. The PIC of that flight was Loveness' father, meaning that the
young
man bears absolutely no responsibility for whatever happened, be it engine
failure or otherwise.

As for this latest accident, we don't know much yet, but it's worth noting
that "see and avoid" is the responsibility of not just one pilot, but ALL
pilots involved. It may turn out that this kid is a perfectly competent
pilot who is merely incredibly unlucky (or incredibly lucky, depending on
how you choose to look at it).


The more I hear about it, the more that appears to be the case. It looks
like the Centurion descended into the 170 from behind -- not much anybody
could do about it. The 170 would have been hidden under the Centurion's
cowling and the Centurion would not have been visible to anyone in the 170.

On Wed, 19 May 2004 02:57:29 GMT, Don Tuite
wrote:

On Tue, 18 May 2004 21:20:22 GMT, Bela P. Havasreti
wrote:


(and yes, I own a C-170B and am instrument rated).

Bela P. Havasreti

Wanna buy a Tactair?

Don

Very funny Don!

No thanks...
..
Bela

"Mike Weller" wrote in message
s.com...
On Tue, 18 May 2004 06:51:25 -0400, Aardvark
wrote:


... Ghyrn Loveness, 20, was flying a Cessna 170 when he crashed. KOMO 4
News has learned this his second fatal plane crash...

Ya can't keep a good boy down.

General Francisco Franco is still dead.


But Elvis isn't...not really.

Did he really land his Cessna 170, after a mid-air collision, with his
engine no longer attached to the airframe -- by turning on the *auto-pilot*?

I read the accident reports and my understanding was that he was on
autopilot, reading a chart, when the midair happened.

Scott Devlin left behind a wife and two children aged 1 year and 3 years,
Perhaps those that find this a source for their feeble attempts at
humour may reflect on that.

Tony

--

Tony Roberts
PP-ASEL
VFR OTT
Night
Almost Instrument
Cessna 172H C-GICE

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
...

"Mike Weller" wrote in message
s.com...
On Tue, 18 May 2004 06:51:25 -0400, Aardvark
wrote:


... Ghyrn Loveness, 20, was flying a Cessna 170 when he crashed. KOMO 4
News has learned this his second fatal plane crash...

Ya can't keep a good boy down.

General Francisco Franco is still dead.


But Elvis isn't...not really.




Men In Black:

"Elvis is not dead...He just went home."

Jay B

"tony roberts" wrote

I read the accident reports and my understanding was that he was on
autopilot, reading a chart, when the midair happened.

Scott Devlin left behind a wife and two children aged 1 year and 3 years,
Perhaps those that find this a source for their feeble attempts at
humour may reflect on that.

Tony

Easy, Tony. I don't think anyone was attempting to make humor out of
Scott's untimely and tragic death. Understanding the chain of events was
not easy, given how the two different incidents were reported on these
posts. We lose far too many good people, sometimes by events that should
have been preventable.

We all feel the pain.
--
Jim in NC


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