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Yesterday I saw the stupidest thing so far in the short time that I've been
flying. I rent out of a VERY busy uncontrolled field. On most weekends there are a couple of students in the pattern, banners towers flying around willy nilly, business jets on long finals, helicopters doing their against the flow of traffic thing, jump pilots entering the downwind from 3000msl and of course the skydivers themselves landing in a field just west of the runway. Exciting times. So I call the FBO around 2:30 in the afternoon to see if there are any planes for rent because it is the most beautiful day, after a couple of weeks of low ceilings, thunderstorms, mist, rain and blaaa weather. Back side of a cold front with high pressure building across the entire area. Sweet. I can get a Warrior at 6pm. GREAT! Off I go, flying into the setting sun, with flight following, nice greaser at a near by class D and then back to home at 2300msl. Smooth air, great visibility, air traffic controllers in a good mood, first quarter moon rising over the ocean. MAN I LOVE FLYING!!! Field in sight. Thanks for the flight following and have a great night. AWOS 15004. Jump plane #1 pilot calls 3 minutes to jumpers away. Perfect. Should be entering on the 45 to downwind just as they jump. Then I hear it. "Busyfield traffic. Twin Piper 10 miles out. Over flying the field at 2000. West to East." Say What? Maybe my radio is picking up a distant airport's unicom. "Jumpers away". I enter the downwind behind jump plane #2 diving into the pattern from 3000msl (TPA is 1000msl). Then again it comes. "Busyfield traffic. Twin Piper five miles out. Over flying the field at 2000". Jump plane #2 lands just as I'm turning base. C152 departs. I turn final and again the call. "Busyfield traffic. Twin Piper over flying the field at 2000. Trying to avoid the parachutes". Sure enough, as I'm on final here come two chutes with the Piper flying right by them. I don't know. Maybe it's just me. But directly over flying an active jump zone a 2000 feet just seems dumb. Oh well. It was a beatuful day to fly. |
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![]() lardsoup wrote: I don't know. Maybe it's just me. But directly over flying an active jump zone a 2000 feet just seems dumb. The moronic part is jumping into an airport. This is contrary to what the FAA would recommend. |
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![]() "Newps" wrote in message ... The moronic part is jumping into an airport. This is contrary to what the FAA would recommend. Many jumps are made at active airports, probably most of them. It makes the next jump all the easier. |
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Maybe the question should be....why would you fly any lower and closer to an apparently pretty active airport than you needed to if you werent actually intending to land there in the first place? Bll "always parks at the far end of the parking lot to avoid "parking space vultures" Fish |
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Oh, he landed. After avoiding the jumpers he circled back into the downwind
and landed. "BllFs6" wrote in message ... Hi Maybe the question should be....why would you fly any lower and closer to an apparently pretty active airport than you needed to if you werent actually intending to land there in the first place? Bll "always parks at the far end of the parking lot to avoid "parking space vultures" Fish |
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BllFs6 wrote:
Maybe the question should be....why would you fly any lower and closer to an apparently pretty active airport than you needed to if you werent actually intending to land there in the first place? I didn't note at what altitude the OP stated the jumpers were being kicked out of a perfectly good airplane. But my experience in this neighborhood has jumpers falling through the usual local VFR altitudes. That is, the Piper's altitude isn't especially relevant. Proximity to the airport, though...but don't we like this sort of thing for the odd case where the air conditioning up front fails? - Andrew |
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At least the skydivers are easier to see under canopy! I was on my long XC
as a student and was flying near a DZ airport (knew not to go over). I was at 6,500 MSL (about 5,600 AGL) and saw 3 canopies above me! GPS showed me over 3 nm from the airport when I checked. -- Chris Ehlbeck, PPASEL "It's a license to learn and buy really expensive hamburgers." "lardsoup" wrote in message ... Oh, he landed. After avoiding the jumpers he circled back into the downwind and landed. "BllFs6" wrote in message ... Hi Maybe the question should be....why would you fly any lower and closer to an apparently pretty active airport than you needed to if you werent actually intending to land there in the first place? Bll "always parks at the far end of the parking lot to avoid "parking space vultures" Fish |
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, "lardsoup" wrote: I don't know. Maybe it's just me. But directly over flying an active jump zone a 2000 feet just seems dumb. The dropzone I fly at has been operating for 6 years now. We are noted on the charts with a parachute symbol and we are published in the AF/D. I talk myself hoarse on CTAF as well as working with Approach. Every weekend at least one (and usually more) uncaring, uninformed or perhaps just friggin' stupid pilot will fly right smack dab over the DZ (which is a private airfield). What's really aggravating is it isn't transient pilots, it's local guys. -- Dale L. Falk There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing around with airplanes. http://home.gci.net/~sncdfalk/flying.html |
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Interesting thread. So what is proper procedure for flying into a DZ
airport? I fly to Morris IL (cheap fuel and good food) which used to have skydiving (not sure if they still do). Whenever I would hear the jumpplane on CTAF or Approach, I would just stay a few miles away until it was obvious all the canopies were on the ground. Then I would enter the pattern and land. On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 18:06:02 GMT, "lardsoup" wrote: I don't know. Maybe it's just me. But directly over flying an active jump zone a 2000 feet just seems dumb. |
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![]() Nathan Young wrote: Interesting thread. So what is proper procedure for flying into a DZ airport? I fly to Morris IL (cheap fuel and good food) which used to have skydiving (not sure if they still do). Whenever I would hear the jumpplane on CTAF or Approach, I would just stay a few miles away until it was obvious all the canopies were on the ground. Then I would enter the pattern and land. Sounds like the proper procedure to me. George Patterson If you want to know God's opinion of money, just look at the people he gives it to. |
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