Why do you 180?

On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, G.R. Patterson III wrote:



BillC85 wrote:

Why do you 180 instead of pressing on? What are your motivations? What goes
through your head?

Because I don't want a bunch of postings on this newsgroup saying variations of "I
knew that stupid ******* would ball it up some day."

"How do I keep my name out of the headlines?" :

Or, for the religious among us, "Please God, help me keep my name out of
the headlines. Amen."

I did my first real-life 180 on the way from Victoria to Seattle/Boeing
Fld about six weeks ago; I knew the clouds where low & solid but thought I
could get under them OK, but I got about half an hour out of Victoria,
over Whidbey Island, and saw that the whole mass was WAY lower than
reported before takeoff, and seemed to be lowering as I got further south.
It had started raining, too.

So, did a 180, went back to Victoria. Only trouble was calling US
Customs/Homeland Insecurity/whatever after landing - they wanted me to
call another number to cancel my arrival, despite having arranged
everything before with the same number I was calling...

Then I drove my pax to the ferry, and they spent the next 12hrs getting to
Seattle by ferry & train from Vancouver...

Brian.

On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 09:50:10 -0500, "BillC85"
wrote:

Good day,

I got caught in some weather the other day and had to 180 outa there.

Punched up goto nearest on the Lowrance, put the Love Boat down, called
wifey for a ride home (three hours by car), and the airplane still sits at
the unscheduled stop waiting to finish the flight, probably tomorrow.

My question is this;

Why do you 180 instead of pressing on? What are your motivations? What goes
through your head?

There are several ways of looking at this:


Here are mine for this particular event in order of priority more or less;

1. I didn't want to embarrass myself by having to put down on a road or
field and causing a big scene.

Some people like attention and sooner or later every one embarrass
them selves any way so you might as well get it over and done.

2. I didn't want to bend the airplane by having to put down on a road or
field.

You need a road or field to do that?

3. I didn't want to die in a CFIT (closely related to the first part of
number 1 above).

You'd rather it was uncontrolled?

4. I didn't want my wife to be without a husband.

Not to worry. Your friends will try to make sure she is comforted till
she finds a new one.

5. I didn't want my dogs to be without a Dad.

Dogs often learn to accept new masters, unless the new master isn't
accepted as the alpha male, then it's a ... well... never mind.

6. I didn't want to inconvenience my wife.

And you still made her drive for three hours to pick you up. I'll
bet you're even going to have her drive you back to get the plane too.


I know there are steely eyed pilots

You mean we have pilots flying with cataracts?

out there who will flame me for having
to come up with so many arguments for the 180 but these are the things that

There is really only one. It makes good sense.

went through my head. You'll notice dying was actually number three.
That's kind of interesting in that it reveals something about my ego. If it
had come right down to the moment however, things probably would have
switched around a bit.

Rarely do you have time to devote to such trivial matters when the
pucker factor goes up. Those who do are the ones who panic and turn
it into a self fulfilling prophecy.


Thoughts?

You done good.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

BillC

CB wrote:
"BillC85" wrote in message
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Good day,
4. I didn't want my wife to be without a husband.
5. I didn't want my dogs to be without a Dad.
Interesting sex life - or an unfortunate name for children. Never come
across a pilot who has fathered dogs.

I don't think that's an unusual attitude. I consider myself the "dad" to
my dog and both of my cats.

--- Jay



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I don't think that's an unusual attitude. I consider myself the "dad" to
my dog and both of my cats.

--- Jay

Gee...

I wanna know where you guys get pets that let the HUMAN be the boss?

As far as I can tell, I'm the peon in the house and the dogs and cats are
running the show

But I still love my little four legged masters...

take care

Blll

BllFs6 wrote:
I don't think that's an unusual attitude. I consider myself the "dad" to
my dog and both of my cats.

Gee...
I wanna know where you guys get pets that let the HUMAN be the boss?
As far as I can tell, I'm the peon in the house and the dogs and cats are
running the show

Well... I said I was their dad, not their boss!



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(Rick Durden) wrote in message om...
I must be getting old, I wasn't aware that "180" had become a verb.

Me too, but it makes a good verb.
--
Gene Seibel
Hangar 131 - http://pad39a.com/gene/plane.html
Because I fly, I envy no one.

Wizard of Draws wrote:

I plan on living at least 100 years. To fall short of that goal due to my
own stupidity would be mortifying beyond comprehension.

Great pun!

George Patterson
If you want to know God's opinion of money, just look at the people
he gives it to.

(Gene Seibel) writes:

(Rick Durden) wrote in message om...
I must be getting old, I wasn't aware that "180" had become a verb.

Me too, but it makes a good verb.

This is one of the best features of the English language, you can
verbatize anything.

"I'll UPS this package to you"

"I'll fax this letter to you"

"Crimony, is that a thunderstorm over yonder? Well, I'll be. I think
I shall 180 out of here!"

-jav

To All,

A friend flew me over to pick up the previously abandoned 150 this
afternoon. It was blue skies and a twenty five mph tailwind on the way
home. The Love Boat is back in her hangar and all is well with the world
again.

Blue Skies
BillC



"BillC85" wrote in message
...
Good day,

I got caught in some weather the other day and had to 180 outa there.

Punched up goto nearest on the Lowrance, put the Love Boat down, called
wifey for a ride home (three hours by car), and the airplane still sits at
the unscheduled stop waiting to finish the flight, probably tomorrow.

My question is this;

Why do you 180 instead of pressing on? What are your motivations? What
goes
through your head?

Here are mine for this particular event in order of priority more or less;

1. I didn't want to embarrass myself by having to put down on a road or
field and causing a big scene.
2. I didn't want to bend the airplane by having to put down on a road or
field.
3. I didn't want to die in a CFIT (closely related to the first part of
number 1 above).
4. I didn't want my wife to be without a husband.
5. I didn't want my dogs to be without a Dad.
6. I didn't want to inconvenience my wife.

I know there are steely eyed pilots out there who will flame me for having
to come up with so many arguments for the 180 but these are the things
that
went through my head. You'll notice dying was actually number three.
That's kind of interesting in that it reveals something about my ego. If
it
had come right down to the moment however, things probably would have
switched around a bit.

Thoughts?

BillC

On 8/26/04 11:53 AM, in article , "G.R.
Patterson III" wrote:



Wizard of Draws wrote:

I plan on living at least 100 years. To fall short of that goal due to my
own stupidity would be mortifying beyond comprehension.

Great pun!

George Patterson
If you want to know God's opinion of money, just look at the people
he gives it to.

Not too subtle? g
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