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Old October 17th 04, 11:32 AM
Philippe
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Default vision aircraft

karel wrote:

seeing the set of plans available on e-bay,
i took a look on this aircraft
and it looks like a possible alternative for the Europa.

of course, some questions arise:

-) are any flying in Europe?

Pas encore, mais il y a plusieurs personnes qui pensent à cet avion

-) the design centers around the Subaru engine.
I should prefer the Rotax 100HP, how does this compare to the subaru?
Weight? Price?

Subaru: plus lourd, moins cher, moins complexe. Plus puissant.
Assez facile à trouver en Belgique.


-) how does the Vision compare to the Europa?

Plus de place pour les occupants, plus de charge possible, moteurs jusqu'à
200Cv (IO360)

Mailling list en France:
Pour vous abonner de ce groupe, envoyez un email à :

Pour vous désabonner de ce groupe, envoyez un email à :




A+
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Old October 17th 04, 08:10 PM
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"Philippe" wrote

A bunch of stuff in french

Since this newsgroup is obviously in English, even though it is
international, why don't you have the courtesy of posting in English. You
obviously read English, so please respond in the same language.
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Old October 18th 04, 05:22 PM
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"karel" wrote:


"Morgans" wrote in message
...

"Philippe" wrote

A bunch of stuff in french

Since this newsgroup is obviously in English, even though it is
international, why don't you have the courtesy of posting in English. You
obviously read English, so please respond in the same language.


just because most people here are from the US, it doesn't give them a
monopoly.
if people from other languages are going out of their way all the while
to read & write english, why do you need to get upset over one single
message in French?

it is not because europeans generally have better education,
especially on the subject in languages, that you should call
it a discourtesy not to make use of that.


I agree that use of a language other than English is not a
discourtesy. I'm sure the poster recognized that his readership would
be dramatically reduced because of his use of French, but that is his
decision to make.

How does one spell "monolingual"?

A-M-E-R-I-C-A-N

--
An American who has to admit to being monolingual despite having taken
French and German in college.
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Old October 18th 04, 07:23 PM
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"Philippe" wrote:

A bunch of stuff in french

Since this newsgroup is obviously in English, even though it is
international, why don't you have the courtesy of posting in English. You
obviously read English, so please respond in the same language.
--
Jim in NC

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Philippe...
How do I write KILLJOY to Bubba Jim in francais?

You say....

Killjoy is Killjoy in every land and language?

Killjoy = One who spoils the enthusiasm or fun of others.

Jimbo....
Vérifiez l'orthographe avant de soumettre une traduction.
(Check spelling before submitting a translation)


Barnyard BOb --

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Old October 18th 04, 11:13 PM
Morgans
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"alexy" wrote in message
...
"karel" wrote:


"Morgans" wrote in message
...

"Philippe" wrote

A bunch of stuff in french

Since this newsgroup is obviously in English, even though it is
international, why don't you have the courtesy of posting in English.

You
obviously read English, so please respond in the same language.


just because most people here are from the US, it doesn't give them a
monopoly.
if people from other languages are going out of their way all the while
to read & write english, why do you need to get upset over one single
message in French?

it is not because europeans generally have better education,
especially on the subject in languages, that you should call
it a discourtesy not to make use of that.


I agree that use of a language other than English is not a
discourtesy. I'm sure the poster recognized that his readership would
be dramatically reduced because of his use of French, but that is his
decision to make.

How does one spell "monolingual"?

A-M-E-R-I-C-A-N


Yes, I do admit to the fact that Americans are not good about learning other
languages. When I travel abroad, I always try to learn a few phrases, to
make the people I am trying to communicate with feel like I have at least
made an effort, and that usually makes people appreciative.

How many languages would you have me learn? Until French becomes the
world's unofficial universal language, I will continue not to become fluent
in it. Why is English spoken as the official language of air traffic
control? Why do most of the Scandinavian countries speak English as a
universal language between all of the small countries and dialects?

Sorry if I stepped on any toes, but you all will have to admit that English
is the most universal language of the developed world, and if that makes me
an ugly American for saying it, so be it. Your problem, not mine, for
speaking the truth.
--
Jim in NC


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Old October 18th 04, 11:16 PM
Morgans
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"Barnyard BOb -" wrote
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Philippe...
How do I write KILLJOY to Bubba Jim in francais?

You say....

Killjoy is Killjoy in every land and language?

Killjoy = One who spoils the enthusiasm or fun of others.

Jimbo....
Vérifiez l'orthographe avant de soumettre une traduction.
(Check spelling before submitting a translation)


Barnyard BOb --


One of your more creative attempts, BOb.

By the way, is that something like humor? ;-)
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Old October 19th 04, 12:44 AM
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"Morgans" wrote:


"alexy" wrote in message
.. .
"karel" wrote:


"Morgans" wrote in message
...

"Philippe" wrote

A bunch of stuff in french

Since this newsgroup is obviously in English, even though it is
international, why don't you have the courtesy of posting in English.

You
obviously read English, so please respond in the same language.

just because most people here are from the US, it doesn't give them a
monopoly.
if people from other languages are going out of their way all the while
to read & write english, why do you need to get upset over one single
message in French?

it is not because europeans generally have better education,
especially on the subject in languages, that you should call
it a discourtesy not to make use of that.


I agree that use of a language other than English is not a
discourtesy. I'm sure the poster recognized that his readership would
be dramatically reduced because of his use of French, but that is his
decision to make.

How does one spell "monolingual"?

A-M-E-R-I-C-A-N


Yes, I do admit to the fact that Americans are not good about learning other
languages. When I travel abroad, I always try to learn a few phrases, to
make the people I am trying to communicate with feel like I have at least
made an effort, and that usually makes people appreciative.


Yep. My feeble attempts at French while in Paris led to appreciation
for my efforts, and a quick decision by Parisians(sp) that it is far
less painful for them to speak English than to put up with my
well-intentioned butchering of their language!

How many languages would you have me learn?

I don't care.

Until French becomes the
world's unofficial universal language, I will continue not to become fluent
in it. Why is English spoken as the official language of air traffic
control? Why do most of the Scandinavian countries speak English as a
universal language between all of the small countries and dialects?

Um, could it be because it is the best-known language in those parts,
and that Anglo/Canadian/Aussie/American commerce is a very large part
of the world economy?

Sorry if I stepped on any toes, but you all will have to admit that English
is the most universal language of the developed world, and if that makes me
an ugly American for saying it, so be it. Your problem, not mine, for
speaking the truth.

I haven't seen anyone dispute these points, or complain about your
making them. I think the [very minor] "beef" was with your
characterizing as "rude" the poster's writing in his own language. I'm
sure that since the question he was responding to was from someone in
Belgium, and was Erope-specific, he felt that use of French would not
cut back too much on the readership of his note.
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Old October 19th 04, 01:32 AM
Dave Hyde
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Barnyard BOb wrote...

Barnyard BOb --


Don't you mean 'Robert de la ferme'

Dave 'my hovercraft is full of eels' Hyde


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Old October 19th 04, 01:45 AM
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Morgans wrote...

Until French becomes the world's unofficial universal language,
I will continue not to become fluent in it.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

So going are you in English to discontinue to not become fluent in
it? g

Dave 'bite the wax tadpole' Hyde



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Old October 19th 04, 02:04 AM
Morgans
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"alexy" wrote I haven't seen anyone dispute these
points, or complain about your
making them. I think the [very minor] "beef" was with your
characterizing as "rude" the poster's writing in his own language. I'm
sure that since the question he was responding to was from someone in
Belgium, and was Erope-specific, he felt that use of French would not
cut back too much on the readership of his note.
--
Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked

infrequently.

Hmm. I didn't see any evidence that the question (or answer) was intended
for a French only person. I did jump, perhaps wrongly, but how is one to
know what was going on? I shouldn't have cared, but sometimes I get cranky,
like other "old farts" around here. No names. (B.U.) g
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