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rj

Ralph Jones wrote:
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http://kcbsimg.dayport.com/htm/cbs2p...elly%20Landing

rj
Check what out? A site that doesn't load?

Use Internet Explorer and it should load - B17 Gear collapse at slow
speed after landing at Van Nuys on news chopper video.

Shawn Curry wrote:

Ralph Jones wrote:

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rj

Check what out? A site that doesn't load?

Loaded fine for me, bummer a restored B17 having a
gear collapse on roll out.



At 19:54 07 May 2004, Shawn Curry wrote:
Ralph Jones wrote:
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http://kcbsimg.dayport.com/htm/cbs2p...D=2643&tf=Worl
d%20War%20II%20Bomber%20Slides%20To%20Safe%20Ha lt%20In%20Van%20Nuy
s%20Belly%20Landing

rj
Check what out? A site that doesn't load?

Very interesting that both mains collapsed at the exact same time. I'm
not familiar w/ the B17 design, but I'd guess that they are independant
mechanical mechanisms so I'd be suspicious of a control failure or
uncommanded or accidentally commanded retraction. I don't know if
jamming on the brakes could be a factor, but it didn't look like the
plane was moving in a manner that would have called for a sudden brake
application.

Ralph Jones wrote:
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http://kcbsimg.dayport.com/htm/cbs2p...elly%20Landing

rj

Apparently the B-17 uses the same gear mechanism as the LS 3/4. Who knew.

Hope nobody was riding in the belly turret.

Mark Zivley wrote in message . com...
Very interesting that both mains collapsed at the exact same time. I'm
not familiar w/ the B17 design, but I'd guess that they are independant
mechanical mechanisms so I'd be suspicious of a control failure or
uncommanded or accidentally commanded retraction. I don't know if
jamming on the brakes could be a factor, but it didn't look like the
plane was moving in a manner that would have called for a sudden brake
application.

Ralph Jones wrote:
Check this out:

http://kcbsimg.dayport.com/htm/cbs2p...elly%20Landing

rj

Very interesting that both mains collapsed at the exact same time. I'm
not familiar w/ the B17 design, but I'd guess that they are independant
mechanical mechanisms so I'd be suspicious of a control failure or
uncommanded or accidentally commanded retraction.

B-17 has a large electric (DC) motor with an angle drive gearbox on
the end driving the gear retraction/extension mechanism, if I recall
correctly (it's been about 20 years now) there's one in each gear
well. For both to retract as nicely as that, I would suspect an
electrical malfunction, maybe a relay or a short or some such thing -
can't remember how the electrics runs on those. They were used them in
the air tanker/spraying bidness right into the early '80's.

Jim

The B-17 has gear and flap switches side by side...not in the least
difficult to flip the wrong one.

rj

On Sat, 08 May 2004 13:23:55 GMT, Mark Zivley
wrote:

Very interesting that both mains collapsed at the exact same time. I'm
not familiar w/ the B17 design, but I'd guess that they are independant
mechanical mechanisms so I'd be suspicious of a control failure or
uncommanded or accidentally commanded retraction. I don't know if
jamming on the brakes could be a factor, but it didn't look like the
plane was moving in a manner that would have called for a sudden brake
application.

Ralph Jones wrote:
Check this out:

http://kcbsimg.dayport.com/htm/cbs2p...elly%20Landing

rj