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Fossett, Fossett, Fossett, .... is he really that great?



 
 
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Old March 6th 05, 10:56 AM
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I want to know more about that jet!


This is supposedly a stock Williams FJ44-3. 2000 have been built. Nothing
special.

http://www.virginatlanticglobalflyer...iams/index.jsp



Many thanks for the link. Just what I wanted to know!


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Old March 6th 05, 11:00 AM
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On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 16:05:04 GMT, Jose
wrote:

Being solo is also just happenstance. Had Lindburg not done it, and had
the other flight in the tri-motor succeeded, it would have been a crew
of two or three (if I'm not mistaken; I don't have my copy of the book
handy) that crossed the atlantic (coming from Paris) that would have
gotten the credit and the prize.


I don't think the excitement would have been there. People wnat one
hero, not a gang of them. And Lindbergh's persona was also tailor-made
for celebrity. He was tall, he was handsome, he was aw-shucks shy. The
perfect American hero, at least until John Wayne came along.


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Old March 6th 05, 11:04 AM
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On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 02:50:25 GMT, "Mike Rapoport"
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Flying
an airplane around the word that can fly nonstop around the world is
something that any one of a million pilots could do. Breaking sailing
records by hiring the best designers to design the boat and then hiring the
best crew (including captain) to sail it could also be done by anyone.


I'm not sure I agree with the first (millions? nah; hundreds, sure)
and I know I disagree with the second. For one thing, the sailor
mentioned in this thread didn't have a crew: she was solo.



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Old March 6th 05, 03:24 PM
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"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 02:50:25 GMT, "Mike Rapoport"
wrote:

Flying
an airplane around the word that can fly nonstop around the world is
something that any one of a million pilots could do. Breaking sailing
records by hiring the best designers to design the boat and then hiring
the
best crew (including captain) to sail it could also be done by anyone.


I'm not sure I agree with the first (millions? nah; hundreds, sure)


I said "million" singular.

and I know I disagree with the second. For one thing, the sailor
mentioned in this thread didn't have a crew: she was solo.


I should be pretty obvious that I wasn't talking about a solo sailor, I was
talking about Steve Fossett's sailing records which have also been mentioned
in this thread..

Mike
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Old March 7th 05, 12:14 AM
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Old March 7th 05, 01:45 PM
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"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
nk.net...

Flying an airplane around the word that can fly nonstop around the world
is something that any one of a million pilots could do.


Hmmm, I wonder if there is a million pilots in the world.


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Old March 7th 05, 02:08 PM
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"kontiki" wrote in message
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Linberg didn't design his airplane but he got all the credit.


As I recall Lindbergh did have a pretty fair amount of input into the
configuration of the airplane.


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Old March 7th 05, 02:14 PM
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I admiit to using some windage and guestimation to arrive at that figure. I
started with the ~640,000 pilots in the USA and figured that there were
probably another 360,000 somewhere.

Mike
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
nk.net...

Flying an airplane around the word that can fly nonstop around the world
is something that any one of a million pilots could do.


Hmmm, I wonder if there is a million pilots in the world.



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Old March 7th 05, 02:19 PM
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"Kev" wrote in message
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Yep. And even stranger, Lindbergh was praised even though he was what,
about the 100th person to cross the Atlantic by plane?


At least 84 men crossed the Atlantic by air before Lindbergh, but not all of
them did it by airplane. The crew of the British dirigible R.34 did it July
1919, a month after Alcock and Brown's first nonstop crossing. The
dirigible LZ-126/ZR-3 was flown nonstop from Germany to New Jersey in
October 1924 by Hugo Eckener and crew.



But he was the first solo, just as Fossett was the first to solo round the
world.



Yes, Lindbergh was the first solo across the Atlantic, but that was just
incidental to his flight. The goal was to be the first nonstop flight
between New York and Paris to win the Orteig prize. The prize did not
require a solo flight.


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Old March 7th 05, 05:19 PM
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On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 14:19:04 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote:

Yes, Lindbergh was the first solo across the Atlantic, but that was just
incidental to his flight. The goal was to be the first nonstop flight
between New York and Paris to win the Orteig prize. The prize did not
require a solo flight.


But the press jumped all over this aspect of the flight, calling him
"the Lone Eagle". It's an aspect that made the flight seem more
adventuresome and dangerous.

Corky Scott

 




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