Dangerous Cessna evacuates govt again

Arnold,

He set the record
straight by stating that a C150, carrying two adults and full fuel has
little to no cargo capacity (polite way of saying no explosives).


Say again after me: That's not relevant, that's not relevant, that's not
relevant.

No one give a flying f how dangerous "small planes" really are. People
are afraid of them - and politicos make use of that to increase their
power. Simple as that. Marketing 1o1. And it's easy to avoid. By not
flying into that prohibited zone.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

JohnH,

but it's these moron pilots who are going to
put an end to YOUR pastime.


I fully agree. Pilots are not important, the majority of voters is. And
they LIKE it if the government generates a feeling of pseudo-safety by
these shows of force.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Dave,

good post! I can't understand why so many here don't understand that
it's not at all about how dangerous our planes really are.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Martin,

it was _very_ funny to watch.


As a holder of a pilot certificate? Sorry, no fun at all. Just worry. A
LOT of worry. How long do you expect to be able to continue flying as a
private pilot if these idiot pilots continue doing what they do?

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Jay Beckman wrote:

C'mon Tom,

Did you have to stand in line for 12 hours today to get bread and a couple
of tins of month old sardines? Did you have to walk to work because there
was no gas to be had for your car? Are you wearing multiple layers of
clothing right now because you have no heat? Are you sharing your bed with
6 other people?

Notice anyone at work stopping and taking notes while you talked to a
co-worker? Any strange clicks or beeps when you used your phone? Did you
feel as if you were being followed as you came home? Did you notice that
the left turn lane had cops standing there so that only large black limos
could use those lanes?

Are there armed men kicking in your door right now? Are they confiscating
everything you own and getting ready to give you a 9mm labotomy or worse?

Are they hearding your family into a truck and taking them away so that
you'll never see them again? This is, of course, after they make a couple
of other stops to collect your parents, your brothers and sisters and that
maiden aunt you love so much.

You used 6 words...I used 4 paragraphs but hyperbole is hyperbole.

We ain't the Soviet Union ... not by a damn sight.

Jay Beckman
Chandler, AZ



You mean the old Soviet Union, right?

Ray Bengen wrote:

Small SINGLE-ENGINE planes are banned not MULTI's.

Still, it is quite ridicilous. I wonder how many people would be
suprised to know a fully-loaded Cessna 150 would bounce of the side of
the Washington Memorial...

Forget about the Statue of Liberty.

Anyhow, I think it'll be forgotten.

IMO.

On Thu, 12 May 2005 01:57:14 GMT, George Patterson
I don't know if it is a new regulation, but about 10 years ago I
overflew the city at 2400 ft, twice in one weekend, as asked by ATC, and
met plenty of ULM on the way.

Christopher Campbell wrote:
The W-48 155mm nuclear artillery round is 34" long and weighs about 110 lbs.
It could fit diagonally in a large suitcase,

errrr no it woudldn't. Typical size of a suitcase (and the one claimed by
Lebed) is 24x16x8". And it would take two-three people to carry such
suitcase (depending on the required distance). And that's an every day sight
on the street or airport, right? Three people carying ONE briefcase - it
really doesn't look suspicus at all! By omitting the shielding, your device
will trigger the most cheapest toy radiation sensor (not to mention the
sophisticated ones that would detect you long before you even get into
plane).

The relatively short halflife of Pu239 means that a large amount of energy
is emitted through radioactive decay. The Pu239 produces about 2 watt/kg.
That's why a piece of Pu239 is warm. If you would use "Lebed's suitcase"
design with only Pu and explosive, the temperature of suitcase would rise
from room temperature to the boiling point of water in less than two hours.
(And to the alpha-beta transition point soon after). I guess they deliver
you "Lebed's refrigerator" for FREE of charge when you buy "Lebed's suitcase
nuke". Or maybe the suitcase has a built *large* cooler and a fan on the
outside, making it look like a large scale model of a cpu with intel sticker
on it - while 3 people carry it around the airport.

The Soviets claimed to have built prototype suitcase weapons 20cm thick. A

Do you have some relevant document/reference that proves this? It's getting
pretty annoying with stroies of "suitcase nukes", "aliens in area 51" and
"We were not on the Moon" conspiracies. (No hard feelings)

In article .com, Sport Pilot wrote:
Not when its possible for a C150 to carry a small A bomb in a suitcase.

Of course they'd have to actually acquire one first. The only A bomb
that the terrorists could construct themselves would be a
Hiroshima-style gun type bomb (something as compact as a 'suitcase sized
bomb' is orders of magnitude more complex and requires much more
precision engineering).

A simple gun-type bomb of any useful yield would not fit in a C150.

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"

In article _Jyge.1534$R13.625@trndny09, George Patterson wrote:
gatt wrote:

It's really ridiculous. London endured the Blitz. America has got to stop
living in fear.

Not a good example. Small planes have been banned from the airspace over London
for decades.

No they haven't, they aren't even prohibited now. You see light planes
at London City which is right in the middle of Canary Wharf.

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"

In article , Larry Dighera wrote:
On Thu, 12 May 2005 01:57:14 GMT, George Patterson
wrote in _Jyge.1534$R13.625@trndny09::
Not a good example. Small planes have been banned from the airspace over London
for decades.

Thanks for the information.

Pity it's not correct!

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"