OSH '05

"Jack Allison" wrote:
I think I need to put an order in with the MontBlack
manufacturing company. The guy is an artist when it comes to working
with pressure treated wood.

Jim Burns wrote:
ROFL!!! Jack, you've got to remember his motivation!!! COLD BEER!!

I guess that means shipping him a case FedEx/UPS this winter.

FWIW, there was a cop threatening to padlock the gate by Friar Tuck's
due to the dumbasses who were 'borrowing' shopping carts from the
grocery and dumping them by the gate (and their brethren who then used
them for trash receptacles). I'm not saying it would have stayed locked
but he was ****ed and he was dead serious. I tried to talk to him and
tell him that not all of us approve of such behavior but he was well
past the point of civil discussion. He brought up feelings I haven't
had since the 70s.

Tom

Jay Honeck wrote:
In particular, he emphasized how great the people were there. "Nobody
littered, everyone was super polite, and not a single person was
drinking at the entire event!"


This is quite true. Oshkosh is the epitome of clean, and is absolutely the
single neatest event I've ever attended.

And there is no alcohol on the grounds -- period. You cannot buy a beer
anywhere.

But in the North 40? Where we *live* for a week? You bet there is beer
a'plenty. But no one abuses it, no one leaves a scrap of litter on the
field, and everyone is in bed by 11 PM -- mostly because, after walking for
10 hours, no one can stay awake any longer.

And it all starts anew the next morning, with the first departure of the
day. To awaken in my tent, next to my plane, to the sounds of radial
engines and the occasional Merlin -- God, how I love it.

And, God, how I miss it already...

Morgans wrote:
"jsbougher" wrote


As bus pulled out of the circle, there it
was on the side of the garbage can ... RAH. Jumped off at first stop,
walked back, read location, waited for bus, got back on, short ride and
BAM there it was at the end of the row. Couldn't miss it. Thanks for
the note ... warm fuzzy that we wouldn't be riding around the camp all
night looking for a banner we'd never seen before.


Glad you saw it! I wondered if anyone saw it! Thanks for letting me know
you saw it. Anyone else see it?

Yep, I saw it... as I was claiming my refund on Thursday morning, after the
party. ;-)

Dave

Jay Honeck wrote:
In particular, he emphasized how great the people were there. "Nobody
littered, everyone was super polite, and not a single person was
drinking at the entire event!"


This is quite true. Oshkosh is the epitome of clean, and is absolutely the
single neatest event I've ever attended.

And there is no alcohol on the grounds -- period. You cannot buy a beer
anywhere.

Well, the North 40 is still considered the grounds. Vintage is also the
grounds and I only drank 5 or 6 bottles of wine down there. Of course I
did run into someone I know by his exhibit in the main show area about
5:30 and he had a can wrapped in paper towel labeled "not a beer" and
cordially offered Ron and I a regular "not a beer" or a light "not a beer".

Margy



But in the North 40? Where we *live* for a week? You bet there is beer
a'plenty. But no one abuses it, no one leaves a scrap of litter on the
field, and everyone is in bed by 11 PM -- mostly because, after walking for
10 hours, no one can stay awake any longer.

And it all starts anew the next morning, with the first departure of the
day. To awaken in my tent, next to my plane, to the sounds of radial
engines and the occasional Merlin -- God, how I love it.

And, God, how I miss it already...

john smith wrote:

I guess that means shipping him a case FedEx/UPS this winter.
Nah...just promise free beer when the goods are delivered. Gotta keep
him motivated since it is a whole year away.


--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-IA Student
Arrow N2104T

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

(Remove the obvious from address to reply via e-mail)

FWIW, there was a cop threatening to padlock the gate by Friar Tuck's due
to the dumbasses who were 'borrowing' shopping carts from the grocery and
dumping them by the gate (and their brethren who then used them for trash
receptacles).

Whoa, there, pardner. The shopping cart merry go 'round is an old tradition
in the North 40, and it works very well, indeed.

Here's how it works:

1. North 40 camper hikes to Pick N Save, and loads up on beer, food, and
ice. There is no way for said camper to haul that much stuff back to his
campsite -- so he "borrows" a shopping cart for the trip back to the gate.

2. At the gate entrance, said camper leaves the cart for the next guy, who
is on his way to buy more ice and beer. He, in turn, takes the cart back
to Pick N Save, and fills it with ice, beer, and food.

3. Repeat as necessary.

This has worked for years, and pre-dates Pick N Save by a wide margin.
(Piggly Wiggly was the store of choice for many years.)

Tell the police officer to go bust another meth dealer. The Midwest is
full of them.

(Anyone using the carts for trash receptacles should be shot, of course.)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:
FWIW, there was a cop threatening to padlock the gate by Friar Tuck's due
to the dumbasses who were 'borrowing' shopping carts from the grocery and
dumping them by the gate (and their brethren who then used them for trash
receptacles).


Whoa, there, pardner. The shopping cart merry go 'round is an old tradition
in the North 40, and it works very well, indeed.

Here's how it works:

1. North 40 camper hikes to Pick N Save, and loads up on beer, food, and
ice. There is no way for said camper to haul that much stuff back to his
campsite -- so he "borrows" a shopping cart for the trip back to the gate.

2. At the gate entrance, said camper leaves the cart for the next guy, who
is on his way to buy more ice and beer. He, in turn, takes the cart back
to Pick N Save, and fills it with ice, beer, and food.

3. Repeat as necessary.

This has worked for years, and pre-dates Pick N Save by a wide margin.
(Piggly Wiggly was the store of choice for many years.)

Tell the police officer to go bust another meth dealer. The Midwest is
full of them.

(Anyone using the carts for trash receptacles should be shot, of course.)

I guess I missed that one. I was within spitting distance of the gate
and I never saw one cart being pushed back to Pick N Save. How do you
feel about the 'tradition' of stealing hotel towels and leaving your
room looking like a pig pen? I believe that tradition pre dates the air
show but I personally don't approve of it or practice it.

Now you're making me laugh. Maybe I should have told the cop that our
taxes pay his salary and maybe quoted something from the constitution.
That usually leaves them quaking in their boots! "Whoa Ralph, we're in
over our heads with this guy. He's talkin' constitution now. Let's go
bust a meth dealer." g

Seriously, I'm not here to start fights with the 'regulars', and you
seem like a decent type of guy. I was reporting what I saw at the gate
and I did go on to to inject my personal opinion with the 'dumbass'
remark. I doubt that Pick N Save feels that the 1 percent or so they net
entitles everyone to take their carts on an off road cross country trek,
but it's not my call. That gate was about to get locked and it would
have caused inconvenience to thousands of people and cost the local
merchants a lot of money.

Tom

I guess I missed that one. I was within spitting distance of the gate and
I never saw one cart being pushed back to Pick N Save. How do you feel
about the 'tradition' of stealing hotel towels and leaving your room
looking like a pig pen? I believe that tradition pre dates the air show
but I personally don't approve of it or practice it.

You seem to be confusing convenience -- for the store AND the consumer --
with petty theft and vandalism.

Or are you saying that the shopping carts were loaded into planes, and
stolen?

Seriously, I'm not here to start fights with the 'regulars', and you seem
like a decent type of guy. I was reporting what I saw at the gate and I
did go on to to inject my personal opinion with the 'dumbass' remark. I
doubt that Pick N Save feels that the 1 percent or so they net entitles
everyone to take their carts on an off road cross country trek, but it's
not my call. That gate was about to get locked and it would have caused
inconvenience to thousands of people and cost the local merchants a lot of
money.

I understand your point, Tom, and frown on the practice everywhere EXCEPT
Oshkosh, where there is simply no alternative (since EAA closed the on-site
food store) to shopping at Pick N Save. As long as we pilots -- generally
an honorable group -- continue to work together to keep the cart
merry-go-round going (I.E.: Taking the carts BACK to the store as frequently
as we take them to the North 40), everything will be in balance, and no one
is harmed.

However, the moment it becomes a problem of too many carts stacked up in the
North 40, with no one willing to push them back, well, then the system will
have failed, and we all lose.

Including Pick N Save, by the way. If we can't carry what I buy on foot, we
will simply eat and drink more on the grounds.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Whoa, there, pardner. The shopping cart merry go 'round is an old tradition
in the North 40, and it works very well, indeed.

I'm not familiar with the aforesaid merry-go-round, but there was a very
unsightly collection of grocery carts at the gate, one filled with trash. If I'd
been the owner of the adjacent property (Super 8?) I'd not have been happy with
what the convention-goers were doing on my property.

Of course (before someone else says it) Super 8 profits mightily from the
convention. The whole town of Oshkosh profits from the convention. I'm just in
favor of treading as lightly as possible on our hosts' living space.

There was no other trash receptacle anywhere nearby. There should be one by the
gate.

Dave

Dave Butler wrote:
There was no other trash receptacle anywhere nearby. There should be one
by the gate.

There was one a little ways to the west by the porta-potties