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  #21  
Old August 25th 05, 03:00 PM
Jay Honeck
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If Mary has to fish around for the nipple, I'd suggest that perhaps a
marriage counselor might be an appropriate expenditure.


I pull the plane back and forth while Mary fishes around for the stupid
nipple.



Any decent "relationship" counselor would have 4 separate notations on
just that one line. g


I KNEW I could count on you guys to take that line out of context! I just
KNEW it!

:-)
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Iowa City, IA
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  #22  
Old August 25th 05, 03:02 PM
Jay Honeck
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Me ........ I use butyl ....... Why ............ Because I designed the
machines which are now used to splice butyl inner tubes.


Thanks, Roy. Gosh, you meet the darndest people on Usenet!

:-)
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  #23  
Old August 25th 05, 03:06 PM
Jay Honeck
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Jay, there should be a red balance dot on the tire where the valve stem
is. You can use this to position the valve stem in the window. The right
air chuck can make things easy (or impossible) too.


Well, I'm thinking of taking Don's advice, and painting a line on the floor
of the hangar...

;-)

Seriously, I don't know if we'd even be able to see a dot. The stupid fancy
pants stick out pretty far, and Mary (or I) will have to stand on our heads
to see the tire sidewall at all.

No, I think the solution (or, at least, an abatement to the problem) is to
put in the newer inner tubes that don't leak.

(WHY am I not surprised to hear that airplanes still use 1940s-era tire
technology?)
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Jay Honeck
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Pathfinder N56993
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  #24  
Old August 25th 05, 03:41 PM
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Jay ...

You probably never noticed, but there is a 1" wide red line from the "red
dot" on the tires all the way down to the ground on the BlueOnBlue182. I
can see that sucker and line it up on the ground while I'm pulling on the
tow bar.

You paint the line on the NEW tires before you hang them on the airplane.

I'm going to invest in the new technology tubes, too, but the line is going
to remain. You're going to have to fill up the tires at SOME time, and the
red line is a cheap way of alignment.

Jim


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Well, I'm thinking of taking Don's advice, and painting a line on the
floor of the hangar...



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Old August 25th 05, 04:00 PM
Roy Page
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Your right Jay ! You never know what lies behind the name or N number !

Roy
Archer N5804F

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Me ........ I use butyl ....... Why ............ Because I designed the
machines which are now used to splice butyl inner tubes.


Thanks, Roy. Gosh, you meet the darndest people on Usenet!

:-)
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"



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Old August 25th 05, 07:38 PM
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If that's not enough reason: most (if not all) fix a flat's use Butane
as a propelant and inflator. It's not as stable as air and is flamable.
Also, if you don't get the tire spinning immediately and keep it
spinning for a while it won't be anywhere close to in balance. It's
better than having a flat, but it is a temporary fix at best. Also, if
you use one, warn the tire person when you get it changed or fixed.
Sometimes they smoke...

John

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Old August 25th 05, 09:35 PM
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At annual I started to let my A&P/IA groove a small arc on the bottom
of the fairing (I have no door). This would be done with a router I
guess and would make access to the nipple a lot easier.
Wish I had done it before my once a month inflation fun last night. )
Mayeb I'll go back and let him do it this weekend.


Trip


In article , says...

Hey, at least you had help!
I would have roll the cherokee up a couple inches then take a look at
each tire to see if I can see the nipple through the damn little door on
our 1986 Cherokee 180. Then you have to do finger acrobats trying to
get the air hose connected to the nipple.

Those wheel pants on the cherokee are a love/hate relationship. You get
a little extra speed and they look better than no pants. But then
airing up the tires are a pain. And how many people have landed in a
muddy grassy strip and have the pants get clogged up causing the tires
to lock up.

As for the air leak. I think it is through osmosis. We only have to air
up the tires maybe a couple of time a year.

Jay, how about solid rubber tire! Of course you have to grease every
landing.

Nick
PA28-180 'D'



Jay Honeck wrote:

One of our least favorite jobs (thanks to our "Fancy Pants" with their
stupid, under-sized access doors) is airing up the tires on our Pathfinder.

I pull the plane back and forth while Mary fishes around for the stupid
nipple. If you want to hear a woman cuss like a sailor, just stop by the
hangar on tire-filling day!

It seems like we're having to fill the tires way too often. At least every
3 - 4 weeks, we notice that the plane has become a real bear to pull out of
the hangar, and that our take-off roll has become noticeably longer. Sure
enough, the tires will be down around 25%, from 40 to 30 lbs on the mains,
and from 30 to 23 lbs (or so) in the nosewheel.

This seems ridiculous. Is it a product of tubed tires, or do I have slow
leaks that should be fixed? Can you use "Fix-a-Flat" in aircraft tires?
(I'll bet not.)

How often do you guys have to fill your tires?


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Old August 25th 05, 10:07 PM
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RST Engineering wrote:
If Mary has to fish around for the nipple, I'd suggest that perhaps a
marriage counselor might be an appropriate expenditure.

{;-)


More like a plastic surgeon.
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Old August 26th 05, 01:58 AM
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On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:17:02 GMT, Rip
wrote:

Hi Jay;

Aircraft inner tubes, due to historical inertia, lose air much more
rapidly than their automotive counterparts. However, at least one of the
major aircraft tire suppliers is now making innertubes of modern,
spaceage material that actually holds air. Try Desser.


I just put new mains on the Deb. I went with the Flight Custom and
the new inner tubes. At 6 weeks the mains were only down 4# while the
nose gear tire had almost gone flat after a couple of weeks in the
hangar. Prior to changing I had to put air in the mains at least once
every two weeks. The change has me thinking of changing out the nose
gear tube. Seems like the tubes were around $12 (give or take a tad)

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

 




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