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Old November 9th 05, 01:54 AM
Wizard of Draws
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OK, I broke down and sprung for the Lowrance Airmap 2000c instead of the
1000. Wow.

Normally I rent a plane that has a panel-mounted IFR certified Garmin 430,
but that may change due to circumstances beyond my control in a few months.

Obviously I can't file /G IFR without a proper IFR GPS, but this one will be
used as a backup and for cross-reference at the very least.

So...do I tell a briefer to note that I have a VFR GPS and will the
controllers take note, sending me direct, off airways? Will it make any
difference to them at all? Given the fact that nearly everyone has one
nowadays, will they assume I have a GPS even if I don't indicate it?
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Old November 9th 05, 04:27 AM
John Theune
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Wizard of Draws wrote:
OK, I broke down and sprung for the Lowrance Airmap 2000c instead of the
1000. Wow.

Normally I rent a plane that has a panel-mounted IFR certified Garmin 430,
but that may change due to circumstances beyond my control in a few months.

Obviously I can't file /G IFR without a proper IFR GPS, but this one will be
used as a backup and for cross-reference at the very least.

So...do I tell a briefer to note that I have a VFR GPS and will the
controllers take note, sending me direct, off airways? Will it make any
difference to them at all? Given the fact that nearly everyone has one
nowadays, will they assume I have a GPS even if I don't indicate it?

When I'm asked if I can go direct, I tell them I can follow vectors very
precisely. In the north east where there is very good radar coverage
that seems to work well.
John
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Old November 9th 05, 11:29 AM
kontiki
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Wizard of Draws wrote:
So...do I tell a briefer to note that I have a VFR GPS and will the
controllers take note, sending me direct, off airways? Will it make any
difference to them at all? Given the fact that nearly everyone has one
nowadays, will they assume I have a GPS even if I don't indicate it?


Probably. Jeff I've filed direct a few times and been cleared and I
haven't mentioned anything but /U. I've also asked for direct while
enroute once or twice and have been asked by ATC if I can go direct
while enroute also. So I don't really think it matters if you do or
you don't. If it works out better for them and you are direct capable
its a win/win situation.

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Old November 9th 05, 04:48 PM
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Probably. Jeff I've filed direct a few times and been cleared and I
haven't mentioned anything but /U. I've also asked for direct while
enroute once or twice and have been asked by ATC if I can go direct
while enroute also. So I don't really think it matters if you do or
you don't. If it works out better for them and you are direct capable
its a win/win situation.

I have a Garmin 150XL (VFR) in the Lance and I take direct routings to
fixes when offered. The 150XL has all IFR fixes even though it's a VFR
unit. When IFR I file / India as if I had RNAV equipment.

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Old November 9th 05, 06:25 PM
Kelly
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OK, I broke down and sprung for the Lowrance Airmap 2000c instead of the
1000. Wow.

Normally I rent a plane that has a panel-mounted IFR certified Garmin 430,
but that may change due to circumstances beyond my control in a few

months.

Obviously I can't file /G IFR without a proper IFR GPS, but this one will

be
used as a backup and for cross-reference at the very least.

So...do I tell a briefer to note that I have a VFR GPS and will the
controllers take note, sending me direct, off airways? Will it make any
difference to them at all? Given the fact that nearly everyone has one
nowadays, will they assume I have a GPS even if I don't indicate it?


I fly with a Garmin 296 on the yoke, the airplane is equipped /A
(transponder and DME), and I always put "VFR GPS" in the remarks section on
the advice of an air traffic controller friend. Since then, I routinely get
cleared direct to fixes way down the road and outside normal VOR navaid
coverage, so I can only assume they are seeing and using the remarks. Many
times, they clear me without me even asking, like to the initial
intersection of a STAR at my destination airport.


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Old November 9th 05, 08:32 PM
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I always put "VFR GPS" in the remarks section on the advice of an air traffic controller friend.

Good idea - I wonder why *my* ATC pals haven't suggested this before...

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Old November 9th 05, 11:06 PM
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Good idea - I wonder why *my* ATC pals haven't suggested this before...


Probably because it's unnecessary. If you want direct just file direct.


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Old November 10th 05, 04:48 AM
Dave
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Exactly how we felt after a flight with our new AM2000C..

We getting the terrain database in a coupla weeks..then loading the
mapcreate maping...

Dave

On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 20:54:32 -0500, Wizard of Draws
wrote:

OK, I broke down and sprung for the Lowrance Airmap 2000c instead of the
1000. Wow.


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Old November 11th 05, 05:42 PM
Robert M. Gary
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Tell the briefer to note "VFR GPS on board" in the notes. You should be
able to get direct clearances with that (I've often had ATC give me
directs to intersections with this). You can also go direct just by
shooting star locations, its up to you what you use.

 




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