Lancaster California: Another Fatal Cirrus Crash

42 Cirrus aircraft accidents in five years.
14 in 2005.
11 of 14 were model 22's, of of which was a G2.
3 of 14 were model 20's.
4 of 14 flights were fatal.

MN Dec 11 ...3 dead
NC Dec 29 ...2 dead
CA Jan 9 ....2 dead
Appears all were SR22's

NTSB search did not list the Dec 29 crash.
Add one to each of the lines except the model 20's.

Years ago we called it a 200 kt aircraft with a 50kt brain.

Kenny

On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:33:22 GMT, Larry Dighera
wrote:



Live video:
http://cbs2.com/topstories/local_story_009171149.html


http://www.faa.gov/data_statistics/a...a/01_526CD.txt

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** Report created 1/10/2006 Record 1 **

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IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 526CD Make/Model: SR22 Description: SR-22
Date: 01/09/2006 Time: 2134

Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Fatal Mid Air: N
Missing: N
Damage: Destroyed

LOCATION
City: LANCASTER State: CA Country: US

DESCRIPTION
ACFT CRASHED WHILE PRACTICING A MANEUVER, THE TWO PERSONS ON
BOARD WERE FATALLY INJURED, LANCASTER, CA

INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 2
# Crew: 2 Fat: 2 Ser: 0 Min: 0
Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
Unk:

WEATHER: 2150Z 04012 50CM CLR 15105 A3029

OTHER DATA

Departed: LANCASTER, CA Dep Date: Dep. Time:
Destination: LANCASTER, CA Flt Plan: Wx Briefing:
Last Radio Cont: ON FINAL
Last Clearance: CLEARED FOR THE OPTION

FAA FSDO: VAN NUYS, CA (WP01) Entry date: 01/10/2006

"Kenny" wrote in message
...
Years ago we called it a 200 kt aircraft with a 50kt brain.

Kenny



A fool and his money soon has more aircraft than he can handle.

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DW

1. From the local TV news, the plane's engine quited when it turned
crosswind. It immediately dove down to the ground after engine quit.


2. Prior to the crash, it's done many touch and go on the William Fox
Field (KWJF).

3. Note that the temporature here in Southern California was over 76
degree in downtown LA. I would guess it must be close to high 80 or
even 90s in the desert. (The crash happend on 1:40PM)

4. From the TV news, local sheriff saw the chute ejected after it hit
the ground. But can't be determined by official yet.

5. The plane was a rental at VNY Gene Hudson Aviation.

My friend's SR22 had experienced engine quit last summer when he took
off from Las Vegas in a hot day, with fully loaded, with air-condition
turned on. It was caused by engine vapor lock. Fortuntely he ws high
and was close to JEAN ( 0L7). He made a successful dead stick landing
at JEAN. His wife on the side sreamed ...pull the chute..pull the
chute...but he did not attempted.

Please check my previous post (in the same topic) for more detail..
The egine quited when turned crosswind after several touch and goes in
a very hot day and he was low and was on training..... unlike my
friend's SR22, his engine quited caused by vapor lock but he was high
and was close to a airport. That poor guys had probably missed a
window of few seconds in a very unforgiving airplane. The instructor
had no time to save the plane after it is too late.

RIP

"john smith" wrote:

NTSB search did not list the Dec 29 crash.

I knew this pilot, a business acquaintence. Talked airplanes with him
at lunch, once. He loved his Cirrus and seemed to be a conservative,
prudent sort of guy.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 22:35:37 -0500, "Darkwing"
theducksmailATyahoo.com wrote in
::

A fool and his money soon has more aircraft than he can handle.

In the case of this Columbia crash, a recently certificated ATP was
PIC:
http://www.landings.com/_landings/pa...bia-crash.html

Perhaps there's something inherently dangerous about composite
aircraft?

On 10 Jan 2006 22:23:21 -0800, "cpu" wrote in
. com::

1. From the local TV news,

Perhaps that story is available on their web-site. Can you provide
the TV station's web address?

the plane's engine quited when it turned crosswind. It immediately
dove down to the ground after engine quit.

That observation would be consistent with a stall/spin.

2. Prior to the crash, it's done many touch and go on the William Fox
Field (KWJF).

3. Note that the temporature here in Southern California was over 76
degree in downtown LA. I would guess it must be close to high 80 or
even 90s in the desert. (The crash happend on 1:40PM)

4. From the TV news, local sheriff saw the chute ejected after it hit
the ground. But can't be determined by official yet.

5. The plane was a rental at VNY Gene Hudson Aviation.

My friend's SR22 had experienced engine quit last summer when he took
off from Las Vegas in a hot day, with fully loaded, with air-condition
turned on. It was caused by engine vapor lock. Fortuntely he ws high
and was close to JEAN ( 0L7). He made a successful dead stick landing
at JEAN. His wife on the side sreamed ...pull the chute..pull the
chute...but he did not attempted.

Wouldn't turning the fuel pump on be expected to clear the vapor lock?

Larry Dighera wrote:

Wouldn't turning the fuel pump on be expected to clear the vapor lock?

Interestingly, many of the local A&P comments in response to the 2002 fatal
crash of a Cirrus north of Syracuse, NY, suggested that these high
performance engines were not designed for repeated full power/low power
settings, as what happens over numerous touch and gos or, in the case of
the 2002 crash, repeated stall practice.

--
Peter

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 22:35:37 -0500, "Darkwing"
theducksmailATyahoo.com wrote in
::

A fool and his money soon has more aircraft than he can handle.

In the case of this Columbia crash, a recently certificated ATP was
PIC:
http://www.landings.com/_landings/pa...bia-crash.html

Perhaps there's something inherently dangerous about composite
aircraft?


I don't know what the glide ratio is on a Cirrus or a Columbia but I can't
imagine it is really good.

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DW