Cost of State Registration?

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john smith wrote:

Rudy is much of a voice for aviation in Ohio.

OOPS!
Should read: Rudy is not much of a voice for aviation in Ohio.

"TaxSrv" wrote in message

AOPA I think shot itself in the foot bitchin' about this tax. Made us
look like a bunch of cheapskates before State legislators and the Office
of Aviation.

Kinda like those guys who threw the tea in the harbor, huh?

On 21 Jan 2006 08:09:09 -0800, "tom" wrote:

I just recieved my annual bill from the state of Oregon for registering
my airplane: $50 for single engine. How does this compare to other
states?
tom pettit

Michigan, $1.00 per 100 wt, so for my Deb which grosses at 3100 it's
$31. For my car the license plats are well over a hundred.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
Roger

I'm not an owner but I have to say I'm stunned...

Considering how much dinero the state of Arizona wants for me to register
earth-bound vehicles, I would have supposed it costs far more to register an
aircraft than it would appear it does.

Very interesting...

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
AZ Cloudbusters
Chandler, AZ

Jay Beckman wrote:

Considering how much dinero the state of Arizona wants for me to register
earth-bound vehicles, I would have supposed it costs far more to register an
aircraft than it would appear it does.

Arizona uses the auto registration money to support roads for those autos. How
much does Arizona spend on facilities for aircraft?

George Patterson
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your slightly older self.

"George Patterson" wrote in message
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Jay Beckman wrote:

Considering how much dinero the state of Arizona wants for me to register
earth-bound vehicles, I would have supposed it costs far more to register
an aircraft than it would appear it does.

Arizona uses the auto registration money to support roads for those autos.
How much does Arizona spend on facilities for aircraft?

George Patterson

I think Arizona pilots are getting their fare share of Government monies:

From:

http://www.azdot.gov/aviation/index.asp

I found this report on Arizona's five year aviation plan:

http://shorterlink.com/?ZIRW7N

And then you have this from AOPA's Regional Affairs section:

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May 27, 2004 - In a textbook example of unified general aviation interests,
airports, pilots, and aviation advocates have put two measures on the desk
of Gov. Janet Napolitano (D-Ariz.) that should significantly increase state
funding for airport safety and capacity improvements and reduce aviation
taxes.

AOPA Western Regional Representative Stacy Howard and Michael Racy, the
Airport Support Network volunteer for Marana Regional Airport and a
registered lobbyist who represents the Tucson Airport Authority and Pima
County, helped convince lawmakers to use 100% of the state's
aviation-related tax and fee revenues to help fix general aviation airports.
The two also helped win approval for SB1020, a bill to reduce the state's
tax on antique aircraft.

During the budget crunch of the past several fiscal years, Arizona had
diverted approximately half ($7 million to $8 million annually) of the
aviation fuel taxes, aircraft registration fees, and aircraft property taxes
the state collects to the general fund. Governor Napolitano this year
proposed rededicating all those aviation taxes to help maintain airports - a
move strongly supported by AOPA and this week approved by state lawmakers.

Howard testified before both legislative chambers supporting SB1020. The
measure cuts the tax on an estimated 700 "antique" aircraft from 0.5% of
value to a flat $20 annual fee. AOPA members in Arizona played a big role,
contacting legislators and convincing them to remove procedural hurdles to
the bill's passage.

----- End Quote -----

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
AZ Cloudbusters
Chandler, AZ

How many miles of roads does your car use, compared to miles
of runway?



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"Jay Beckman" wrote in message
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| I'm not an owner but I have to say I'm stunned...
|
| Considering how much dinero the state of Arizona wants for
me to register
| earth-bound vehicles, I would have supposed it costs far
more to register an
| aircraft than it would appear it does.
|
| Very interesting...
|
| Jay Beckman
| PP-ASEL
| AZ Cloudbusters
| Chandler, AZ
|
|

"Jay Beckman" wrote in message
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I'm not an owner but I have to say I'm stunned...

Considering how much dinero the state of Arizona wants for me to register
earth-bound vehicles, I would have supposed it costs far more to register
an
aircraft than it would appear it does.

Unlike cars, aircraft require basically no expendature on their part for
infrastructure to allow the aircraft to operate, so it basically is just a
cheap tax for them to implement... Easy money, low expendature... Kind of
like speeding tickets for automobiles...

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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How many miles of roads does your car use, compared to miles
of runway?


Well, that really wasn't my point...

I didn't put a lot of emphasis on it, but what I was getting at was the cost
to register versus the cost of the vehicle being registered.

Aircraft cost more than cars but (it would seem) cost far less to register
on a "per thousand dollars of value" basis.

I was mearly expressing a sense of suprise...I'm certainly not advocating
that pilots dig deeper than they already have to.

And as I said, I'm not an owner so I'm only reacting to the actual numbers
being quoted without a complete understanding of additonal taxes and fees
that go with buying an owning.

Jay B

"Jay Beckman" wrote in message
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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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How many miles of roads does your car use, compared to miles
of runway?

Well, that really wasn't my point...

I didn't put a lot of emphasis on it, but what I was getting at was the
cost to register versus the cost of the vehicle being registered.

But your "point" ignored the reality of the situation. At least in some
respects, supporting a motor vehicle costs more than supporting an airplane.
So why shouldn't the tax on a "per-value" basis be more?

I don't think it's legitimate to compare taxes between different kinds of
goods and expect them to come out the same on a "per-value" basis.
Otherwise, we could just have a single sales/use tax on everything, right?

Does it seem odd to you that your home isn't taxed the same rate on a
"per-value" basis as your car? That would be just as valid a point as the
one you were making in your post.

Pete