Bad day in Oklahoma

what happens some several millenia down the road when
all our water is turned to helium?

We all end up talking in squeaky voices, of course... snicker


An entire nation of citizens talking like Alvin & the Chipmunks? I
gotta work that into my stand-up act

"Jose" wrote in message
m...
Electricity created with nuclear fission

Considering the care with which people handle dangerous things (including
airplanes, an endless topic of discussion here), and considering the
number of people with evil intent, both enemies and citizens, and
considering the misplaced priorities and total lack of understanding we
have about security, and considering all the economic and short term
incentives we have to take shortcuts, I am not all that comfortable with
increased use of intense nuclear products.

Jose


Ok Jose,

I have a quick test for you.

Name all the people that have died as a result of Nuclear accidents in the
US.

Name all of the people that have died while riding in Ted Kennedy's car.

Which is statistically safer?

Name all of the people that have died while riding in Ted Kennedy's car.

So we let Ted Kennedy drive all the nuclear fuel around.

Jose
--
Money: what you need when you run out of brains.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

"Jose" wrote in message
om...
Name all of the people that have died while riding in Ted Kennedy's car.

So we let Ted Kennedy drive all the nuclear fuel around.

No, we give him a few drinks, let him load up a bus with a bunch of his tree
hugger friends and have him drive them across a bridge.


Jose
--
Money: what you need when you run out of brains.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

("Dave Stadt" wrote)
No, we give him a few drinks, let him load up a bus with a bunch of his
tree hugger friends and have him drive them across a bridge.


http://www.austinev.org/evalbum/384.html
This kind of bus? :-)

http://www.motortrend.com/future/con...agen_microbus/
What's old is new again.


Montblack
http://www.adclassix.com/ads/67vwbeetlefloater.htm
Original VW ad.

http://www.terpsboy.com/terpsboyarchives/000141.html
National Lampoon VW ad.

"Montblack" wrote in message
...
("Dave Stadt" wrote)
No, we give him a few drinks, let him load up a bus with a bunch of his
tree hugger friends and have him drive them across a bridge.


http://www.austinev.org/evalbum/384.html
This kind of bus? :-)

Nope, those might float. Any busses out there that hold several hundred
people and are made of lead?

And even worse, there is no escaping the fact that even if we adopt nuclear
fission as a long term energy solution, for the short term we are compelled
to depend on oil. We have oil we can develop within the US, and off our
shores. And yet we would rather risk a nuclear weapon detonated in the Port
of Newark hidden in the bowels of an oil tanker than drill in ANWAR or off
the shores of Florida. While we are sitting at home in our frigid houses,
without light or heat, or the ability to go to work, we can comfort
ourselves with the notion that there are three polars bears who are
undisturbed. And the Kennedys don't have to worry about have their view
spoiled by a wind farm.


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:KfCPf.602822$084.522499@attbi_s22...
You're not answering the question.

Sigh. I did answer it.

You did not. Worse, you're missing the point.

The bottom line is quite simple: There is not one, single, solitary thing
that you, or I, or ANYONE (including GW Bush) can do to reverse or even
slow down the rate of global warming. Or global cooling. Or whatever the
"crisis of the week" is. It's simply out of our control.

People need to drive. Electricity needs to be generated. Houses need to
be built. Roads need to be paved. Sewers must be built. In short, the
world must go on, and wringing our hands about turning off the lights when
we leave for work AIN'T going to change anything. (BTW: I do everything
possible to conserve energy, not to "save the world" but to "save a
buck"...)

To make matters worse, the ultimate solution to our energy woes has been
at hand for decades -- yet the very same people who adamantly advocate
changing the world's economy are standing four-square in the path to
clean, cheap, and abundant nuclear energy.

I find it supremely ironic that the ultimate solution to our problems in
the Middle East, as well as the ultimate solution to our so-called climate
crisis, is being politically quashed by the same people who are screaming
the loudest against burning petrochemical fuels.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

And even worse, there is no escaping the fact that even if we adopt
nuclear fission as a long term energy solution, for the short term we are
compelled to depend on oil. We have oil we can develop within the US, and
off our shores. And yet we would rather risk a nuclear weapon detonated
in the Port of Newark hidden in the bowels of an oil tanker than drill in
ANWAR or off the shores of Florida. While we are sitting at home in our
frigid houses, without light or heat, or the ability to go to work, we can
comfort ourselves with the notion that there are three polars bears who
are undisturbed. And the Kennedys don't have to worry about have their
view spoiled by a wind farm.

Very well put.

Bitter, surly, and cynical -- but well put, nevertheless.

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

And to think all of this hullabaloo started because some guy blow a ATF and some
other guy couldn't fly.

GeorgeC

"I don't fly any more. I just sit and talk" My CFI.

On 2006-03-08, Jay Honeck wrote:
You did not. Worse, you're missing the point.

No, you're missing the point.

The bottom line is quite simple: There is not one, single, solitary thing
that you, or I, or ANYONE (including GW Bush) can do to reverse or even slow
down the rate of global warming. Or global cooling. Or whatever the
"crisis of the week" is. It's simply out of our control.

We can stop from WORSENING it which is my point (and the point you were
missing). Recognising that continuing to live unsustainably is...erm...
unsustainable is a good start, then over the next few decades,
migrating to more sustainable methods of supporting our lifestyles
is generally a good idea. Sticking our fingers in our
ears and going 'la la la la la' is never the right solution. You are
presenting a false dilemma.

Energy efficiency is a good start to the process. Finding new and
cleaner ways to make energy are the next steps. Some places are very
pro-active about it. But continuing to throw our hands up and say 'oh
well' and continuing to change the atmospheric composition is not the
answer.

Of course, I could be a cynic and say you're only taking this attitude
because you're assuaging your guilt at flying something that burns 14gph
and only goes 140 ktas :-)
But I won't.

To make matters worse, the ultimate solution to our energy woes has been at
hand for decades -- yet the very same people who adamantly advocate changing
the world's economy are standing four-square in the path to clean, cheap,
and abundant nuclear energy.

Burning coal apparently puts more radioactivity into the atmosphere than
all the civil nuclear industry (including the Soviet one) put together.

--
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