Two 14 year old boys steal plane and then crash

"Montblack" wrote in message
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("SkyLoony" wrote)
Unfortunately, his level of intelligence is so low as to make his
comments meaningless.


Is this S-Loon's stab at self deprecating humor?

...or is SkyLoony someone new?


Montblacky

No, it's him. The same "live ski or die" e-mail address from
talkaboutaviation.com

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in message
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No, it's him. The same "live ski or die" e-mail address from
talkaboutaviation.com

No, it's not him. It only looks like him to the naive user.

Anyone can create a user with any email address they want on
talkaboutaviation.com. But only the true Skylune has user ID
"USERID-63612". The deprecating post was posted by the user with user ID
"USERID-89264".

Pretending to be someone else is against the terms of service for
talkabout.com, but frankly the worst they are likely to be able to do to the
person pretending to be Skylune is to terminate his account.

Pete

by "Peter Duniho" Mar 8, 2006 at 02:03 PM




No, it's not him. It only looks like him to the naive user.

Anyone can create a user with any email address they want on
talkaboutaviation.com. But only the true Skylune has user ID
"USERID-63612". The deprecating post was posted by the user with user ID

"USERID-89264".

Pretending to be someone else is against the terms of service for
talkabout.com, but frankly the worst they are likely to be able to do to
the
person pretending to be Skylune is to terminate his account.

Pete

The real Skylune is flattered by the impostor.

Well there was at least one error in the article.

The boys did not crash the aricraft. In fact, they executed
an off-field dead stick landing and made a good landing.

Not a great landing, but maybe the best anyone could have
done under those circunstances.

Except for the stealing the airplane and running out of fuel
parts, that is.

--

FF

On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 00:47:29 -0500, Bob Noel
wrote in
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In article .com,
wrote:

Well there was at least one error in the article.

The boys did not crash the aricraft. In fact, they executed
an off-field dead stick landing and made a good landing.

The plane was not substantially damaged?

FAA Preliminary Report:
http://www.faa.gov/data_statistics/a...a/G_0227_N.txt
************************************************** ******************************
** Report created 2/28/2006 Record 1 **
************************************************** ******************************

IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: UNK Make/Model: MO20 Description: M20,
M20A/B/C/D/E/F/G/J/L/R/S, M20K/M (T
Date: 02/26/2006 Time: 0120

Event Type: Incident

by "Jay Honeck" Mar 8, 2006 at 02:40 PM



Say what you want about Skylune, he offers us valuable insight into the
inner workings of GA's most vociferous opposition.

Usually these kinds of guys quietly roll hand grenades down the aisle,
and

then duck back down. Skylune lets it all hang out, and actually engages
in
(occasionally meaningful) dialog. As such, his participation here is
aggravating, but valuable.



Well thank you Jay! (And I will switch to Google groups soon.) But I am
really not "GA's most vociferous opponent." I'm actually not an opponent
at all.

I know I came into this group as an antagonist, but I'm not "opposed" to
GA like some of the groups out there that want to just shut it down.
(That's why I was never interested in joining these groups...)

I've always said that I personally like to fly, and therefore I don't want
GA to go away. I just want it to be more responsible. That's not the same
as saying all GA pilots suck. I think maybe 10% are clowns, or not
sufficiently qualified.

There should be better ways for GA/surrounding communities to better
coexist, but there will always be some that either don't care, break the
rules, flount the rules, etc. The noise issues obviously drive some
people crazy, and I have been badly inconvenienced and annoyed by GA noise
also. The worst is the completely unnecessary buzzing by some, and lack of
common courtesy. Aviators have acknowledged this too (the "Fly Friendly"
articles by the AOPA for example).

I am here because I want to hear what arguments pilots make against the
"anti-GA" groups. Where compromise with the community proves impossible,
I think there should be mandatory noise restrictions imposed on
non-essential GA flight.

Take care, and enjoy the longer days and better weather!

Where compromise with the community proves impossible,
I think there should be mandatory noise restrictions imposed on
non-essential GA flight.

Why not "where compromise proves impossible, I think there should be
mandatory curfews in the community, so that, being indoors, they don't
hear the airplanes as much"? You paint GA as the one that should always
lose. Let the community banish leaf blowers first, and then we'll talk.

Jose
--
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for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

by Jose Mar 9, 2006 at 08:46 PM

Why not "where compromise proves impossible, I think there should be
mandatory curfews in the community, so that, being indoors, they don't
hear the airplanes as much"? You paint GA as the one that should always
lose. Let the community banish leaf blowers first, and then we'll talk.

Jose



Seems we are in debate mode today.

So.... leaf blowers are covered by noise ordinances. To test this, try
firing up a leaf blower (or a Harley, or a boom box, or any other ground
based noise source at 3 a.m.) in a residential area and see what happens.


Then, make an equal or greater amount of noise in a small plane by
circling at 1000 feet at max rpm and see what happens.

So.... leaf blowers are covered by noise ordinances.

They are not sufficiently covered by noise ordinances. They should be
banned from the entire planet, and anybody who even contemplates using
them should be boiled in oil.

That felt good.

Seriously, even during the day, the constant whine and drone of leaf
blowers destroys the quality of life far more than the intermittant
takeoffs and landings of small piston aircraft. And at 3AM not very
many people do pattern work.

Jose
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What is the difference between a Harley and a Hoover?

The location of the dirtbag. [I can say that because the
first bike I rode was a Harley and I hope to buy another].


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"Skywise" wrote in message
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| "Skylune" wrote in
|
lkaboutaviation.com:
|
| by Jose Mar 9, 2006 at 08:46
PM
|
| Why not "where compromise proves impossible, I think
there should be
| mandatory curfews in the community, so that, being
indoors, they don't
| hear the airplanes as much"? You paint GA as the one
that should always
| lose. Let the community banish leaf blowers first, and
then we'll talk.
|
| Jose
|
|
|
| Seems we are in debate mode today.
|
| So.... leaf blowers are covered by noise ordinances.
To test this, try
| firing up a leaf blower (or a Harley, or a boom box, or
any other ground
| based noise source at 3 a.m.) in a residential area and
see what happens.
|
|
| Good luck having _anything_ done about it!
|
| Harely's don't bother me. But then, I'm biased, as I have
one.
|
| I also like loud music, given that I play guitar.
|
| But those rolling boom boxes that rattle things in the
house do
| bother me. Long story short, I had to deal with that in a
former
| neighborhood and I did try to have something done about
it. No go.
| A police officer MUST witness the event, and they're not
likely
| to care on top of it.
|
|
| Then, make an equal or greater amount of noise in a
small plane by
| circling at 1000 feet at max rpm and see what happens.
|
| Try living near a military base. A little Cessna is
nothing when you
| have a couple Harriers on base over your house like I do
on occassion.
| Granted, it's not a very active base. (Los Alamitos AAF,
KSLI). But
| when I was a wee lad I lived under the pattern of Hill AFB
in Utah,
| which at the time was a very active NATO training base.
The statistic
| at the time was a take off/departure on average every 45
seconds. I
| got to the point that I could identify all the aircraft by
sound.
|
| Yes, some measures can be taken to reduce the amount of
noise, but
| you can only go so far before it starts to interfere with
safe flight
| operations. I've flown out of John Wayne/Santa Ana
commercially and
| the although the roller coaster ride on take off is quite
fun, it's
| also dangerous.
|
| But then, I must defer to the "who was there first? the
airport? or
| the neighborhood?" argument. Anyone who knowingly moves
near an
| airport has no sympathy from me. It's common sense that
airplanes
| make noise, and if it bothers you, then don't move there.
DUH.
|
| Brian
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