Another pilot grounded by insurance

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:SEiNf.803438$_o.181321@attbi_s71...
(digging way back in the brain box here) your wife has
never been happy about you flying, right?

Just to stick to objective facts, since I started flying in 1997, she has never even seen the airplane.

Young single pilots, take note.

Augh! It's even worse than I thought.

Let me get this straight: She's fine with you diving 2.5 miles down into the Atlantic, to see the Titanic wreck --
but she doesn't want you to fly?

How do YOU spell "irrational fear"?

Damn Jay,

That's exactly what I thought when this thread started but I didn't want to offend Roger so I didn't say anything.
You are Cold!
But seriously Rodger, since he brought it up was your deep dive covered by insurance and what did your wife think of
you going on that adventure?
And one more thing, please consider asking your entire family what they think of your flying before you lay this
guilt trip on yourself. It just may be that they are the ones who'll never forgive themselves for asking you to give
up something you love.

'Fade to a whisper'... Psss Guys, Don't tell Rodger but I'm stringing him along here so he doesn't leave. Keep
asking him questions!

'Back to normal tone of voice'

Rodger, what do those wimpy submariners have in lieu of hangar flying sessions. Any good newsgroups for deep sea
submersibles?

Joe Schneider
N8437R



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Doug wrote:
Screw the insuranace. Do it anyway. No law (that I know of) that says
you have to have that much insurance anyway. Lots of us just carry
100k liability and put the savings into making the plane safer or more
instruction so we are better pilots. Life is too short to be controlled
by insurance......

At least that's my take.

I'm with you on that. I remember once, after buying a new sports car,
having an acquaintance say "I'd love to have one of those - but could
never afford the insurance"
I told him that the cost of insurance was not a consideration - that
there was nothing
in this world that I would refrain from doing because of the cost of
insurance. That
was 35 years ago - and I still have the car (and still feel the same
way). I have been
an aircraft owner for nearly as long, and feel no differently about
flying. I am conservative in everything I do, and conciously avoid
potential liability. But I sure as hell don't worry
about it.

As an aside, someone else noted that the car was red - and therefore
(to him) a magnet
for the police. Bullcrap! The cops have stopped me only once in that
car - and rightly
so (I was missing a rearview mirror). Someone had broken it, and I
couldn't find a replacement right away. My other car happened to be out
of commission that day - and I had an urgent matter to attend to - or I
wouldn't have been driving the one with the missing
mirror.

David Johnson

This may sound morbid but, If you need that much insurance from a plane
crash you are probably dead anyhow. So who cares.

This may sound morbid but, If you need that much insurance from a plane
crash you are probably dead anyhow. So who cares.

Your spouse, your six year old daughter...

Jose
--
Money: what you need when you run out of brains.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

How do YOU spell "irrational fear"?

Damn Jay,

That's exactly what I thought when this thread started but I didn't want
to offend Roger so I didn't say anything. You are Cold!

Sometimes the best thing you can do for a friend is slap him in the face.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

("Jay Honeck" wrote)
Sometimes the best thing you can do for a friend is slap him in the face.


Long slips in a surprising upper-cut to Honeck after first telling the
referee, "No mas, no mas."

"Down goes Honeck"
"Down goes Honeck"
"Down goes Honeck"


MontButterbean
I do enjoy ESPN Classic Fights :-)

"Roger Long" wrote in news:w5gNf.53$Da7.24
@twister.nyroc.rr.com:

I'm the maintenance officer of the club. I joined when the club was
run by a cabal of junk men who managed it like those people who search
for car inspection stations that will just slap a sticker on without
checking anything. Looking back, I would never have set foot in that
plane knowing what I do now.

I educated myself and the club and fought a few years of bitter
political battles after which we started rebuilding things.
Technically, I'm the owner, along with 20 odd other people, of the
non-profit that owns the aircraft but we are all considered "owners"
by the FAA and insurance company. As the one primarily responsible
for the restoration of the aircraft, and it being the only plane I fly
(or can afford to fly), it does feel like "my" plane.

Since I'm hemmed in by by-laws that take months to change, the needs
of other members, state statutes governing non-profits, and very
limited financial resources for someone involved in aviation, I
haven't got a lot of wiggle room.

I'm going to call AOPA today and see if they have any ideas.



What state are you in??? if you are in Texas or Florida, the worst a
lawsuit can really do is put a ding in your credit rating, you are NEVER
"required" to pay (talking an individual here, not a corporation),
unless the creditor files a separate lawsuit to force you into
involuntary bankrupcy (almost unheard of) and even THEN your homestead
is exempt ALL retirment funds (401K,IRA, 529education plans, annuities)
are exempt... dunno about other states, some can actually garnish wages,
some are simular to TX and FL....

--
-- ET :-)

"A common mistake people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools."---- Douglas Adams

Aluckyguess wrote:
This may sound morbid but, If you need that much insurance from a plane
crash you are probably dead anyhow. So who cares.

Plus Allstate has to fix your damage: remember to warm up the engine in
Zero weather

"Their small plane had been in the air less than a minute when Casey
Mattuck, 18, and his flight instructor realized the engine was
strangely sluggish and not going to keep them airborne for long.
But what could have been a disaster turned into the best lesson of his
short piloting career, Mattuck said.

Figuring they wouldn't be able to get back to the airport, instructor
John Vashko, 63, steered the plane to a crash landing beside the
Elgin-O'Hare Expressway about 12:40 p.m. Sunday.
Parts of the wing were shorn off and the fuselage was upside down on
the eastbound shoulder of the highway, which authorities closed for
several hours, but Vashko only had a minor head wound and Mattuck
walked away uninjured. No one on the ground was hit."

Time to improve those air defenses... JG...maybe some camo netting ??