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Old April 14th 06, 09:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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On 12 Apr 2006 07:17:07 -0700, "Flyingmonk" wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNjLA...rch=helicopter

Anyone know the name of this idiot? What happened to him? Is he still
flying on the taxpayer's dime?

Enquiring mines want to know.


I think you'll find this is not all that uncommon.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
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Old April 15th 06, 12:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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A Navy commander I knew once gave me a coffee mug with a John Paul
Jones quote on it: "I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that
does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way." The way I see it,
these guys are training to go in harm's way, and I expect them to drive
fast, stay left, and take chances. Of course they're gonna pooch it
once in a while. I'm glad to see they got down safe.

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Old April 15th 06, 03:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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The way I see it,
these guys are training to go in harm's way, and I expect them to drive
fast, stay left, and take chances. Of course they're gonna pooch it
once in a while. I'm glad to see they got down safe.


Yep. They say that using night vision stuff like that is very difficult,
due to reduced depth perception, for one. I can only imagine that is very
true.
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Jim in NC

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Old April 15th 06, 04:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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Morgans wrote:

wrote

The way I see it,
these guys are training to go in harm's way, and I expect them to drive
fast, stay left, and take chances. Of course they're gonna pooch it
once in a while. I'm glad to see they got down safe.



Yep. They say that using night vision stuff like that is very
difficult, due to reduced depth perception, for one. I can only imagine
that is very true.



And extremely limited field of view.
Like looking thru a toilet paper tube.


Richard

ps: Hi Morg!
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Old April 15th 06, 03:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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"Thomas Schoene" wrote in message
ink.net...
Kevin Brooks wrote:
"Thomas Schoene" wrote in message
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What about Apaches?



Don't have IR/T *nav* systems AFAIK; they do have such for weapons
targeting use, though.


They sure do have an IR nav system. There are two separate sensor turrets
in the Apache's nose. The big one is the Target Acquisition and
Designation Sight (TADS) that you're thinking of, but there is a smaller
ball mounted above that called the Pilot Night Vision Sensor (PNVS). The
PNVS is a FLIR intended specifically for navigation rather than targeting.
The systems are nicely illustrated he


You are right. I went back and read up, and you have accurately described
the situation. My mistake.


http://members.aol.com/ah64info/tadspnvs.htm

And while I think the gunner does have basic flight controls at
his seat, and is a rated pilot, I don't think it as likely that the pilot
would have to be telling him that he has"got it" and basically to keep
his cotton-pickin' mitts off the controls. I guess it is a possible, but
the way I heard the cross-talk in the video made it sound a bit less
likely. I'd be guessing something more along the lines of MH-60, but
again, just a guess.


If Ed Rasimus' post is correct, the guy flying was an instructor pilot.
It's apparently not unusual for the IP to fly from the front
(co-pilot/gunner) seat in an Apache.


Could be. In the end we are then left with two major possibilities; AH-64 or
one of the various 160th SOAR birds.

Brooks


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