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Old May 24th 06, 04:32 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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Jim Macklin wrote:

Why not just require one of these actions...
All passengers must fly NUDE.

All passengers must have a 15 day background check and spend
3 days in quarantine before each flight or series of
flights.

All passengers must be armed with a .38 or .45 revolver or
semi-automatic 99 mm - 13 mm) and the passenger briefing


99 mm? WOW. Are you going to put it in your carry on?
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Old May 24th 06, 04:32 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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On Wed, 24 May 2006 14:28:34 GMT, ktbr wrote:

Jim Macklin wrote:

Why not just require one of these actions...
All passengers must fly NUDE.


The prospect of having to sit next to (much less *look* at)
certain people NAKED is enough cause serious anguish and risk
to health. 8^o


How about having all the passangers wear disposable togas supplied by
the airlines ? Don't know about undies though....

enri

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Old May 24th 06, 04:37 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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Or there would be a body mass index standard, over-weight
fat pigs can't fly.



"Peter R." wrote in message
...
| Jim Macklin wrote:
|
| Why not just require one of these actions...
| All passengers must fly NUDE.
|
| The required amount of airsickness bags on each flight
would then have to
| increase exponentially.
|
| --
| Peter


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Old May 24th 06, 04:58 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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typo alert [same key 99 (( (9, intended (9 mm - 13 MM)
but you knew that.


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"mrtravel" wrote in message
. net...
| Jim Macklin wrote:
|
| Why not just require one of these actions...
| All passengers must fly NUDE.
|
| All passengers must have a 15 day background check and
spend
| 3 days in quarantine before each flight or series of
| flights.
|
| All passengers must be armed with a .38 or .45 revolver
or
| semi-automatic 99 mm - 13 mm) and the passenger briefing
|
|
| 99 mm? WOW. Are you going to put it in your carry on?


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Old May 24th 06, 05:14 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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"(PeteCresswell)" wrote in message
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Per neo:
That will discourage hijacker


Am I the only one that thinks skyjacking of passenger planes is a moot
issue
until somebody figures out a way to disable the passengers before
attempting to
take over the cockpit?


No, you are not the only one.

Seems to me like 9-11 depended on the assumption that hijackers were not
suicidal. People were thinking in terms of threats/rewards.... ransom,
freeing
prisoners, and so-forth.... Ultimately in the self-preservation of the
perpetrators - not using the aircraft as a guided missile.

After the Twin Towers got hit it took how long.... 45 minutes? for the
passengers in the plane that went down in Pennsylvania to catch on.


Bingo.

Seems like now that knowledge is embedded in the flying public's mind and
anybody who tries to take over a plane would have to overcome the
resistance of
passengers who know their lives are on the line.
--
PeteCresswell


You've hit the nail on the head Pete. There is indeed a new reality. Things
started changing when the first airplane hit the building, and were changed
forever before the one went in in Penn. Now, if you are going to hijack
something, you will need to control EVERYONE, and that includes granny in
27E. Threats won't work anymore.

Al



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Old May 24th 06, 06:00 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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No door? Arrgh.
When I was starting out as a B727 S/O, I used to look at the cabin throught
the "peephole" to alleviate boredom. Yes they called me "peeping tom"

I had already spent time changing the lettering on my panels to read "Go Eat
Out Norma" instead of "Cargo Heat Outflow Valve -Normal/Close " , etc.

"neo" wrote in message
oups.com...
Separate cockpit and passengers by wall with no door, no window, just
plane wall. No mechanism of communication whatsover with cockpit from
passenger area. That will discourage hijacker because whatever he do,
pilot will not know.

When terrorists know that even flight staff can not talk to pilot, it
is futile to attempt hijack.



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Old May 24th 06, 06:30 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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In rec.aviation.piloting Jim Macklin wrote:
All passengers must be armed with a .38 or .45 revolver or


..45 revolver? What is this, the old west (or do you want to use moon clips)??


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Old May 24th 06, 06:39 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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More great ideas to prevent highjackings

10. Higher frares
9. Double the screening ordeals, especially for people in a hurry
(their planes leave in 10 minutes or less)
8. Take-off tennis shoes with non-white socks: throw away those ugly
clashing socks
7. When you first enter the airplane, just tell the crew-off, and that
should keep 'em on alert, and very anxious to beat-up any fool who
would tell 'em off
6. Pornography in the INFLIGHT magazine might divert a horny fanatic's
concentration
5. Electronic Bandits or at least unpredictable or variable
reinforcement vending machines (the secret behind slot machine
addiction & essence of Pavlov-Skinner research)
4. The captains must do more of their terrific laid-back Jimmy Stewart
impressions
3. FULL-SIZE PILLOWS to induce sleep rather than the torturous
suffering from the inherently dis-comforting tiny pillows
2. Handout leftover Halloween candy donated by the fine folks at
Airplane Travellers for Diabetes Advancement
1. Don't turn-off your electrical things even though the attendant asks
you to do so at least twice, because you couldn't hear the requests,
and thus everybody will hate your insubordinate dumbness

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Old May 24th 06, 06:44 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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"neo" wrote in message
oups.com...
Separate cockpit and passengers by wall with no door, no window, just
plane wall. No mechanism of communication whatsover with cockpit from
passenger area. That will discourage hijacker because whatever he do,
pilot will not know.

When terrorists know that even flight staff can not talk to pilot, it
is futile to attempt hijack.


Probably not necessary given the lack of hijackings in the last 5-6 years.

-c


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Old May 24th 06, 06:46 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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"(PeteCresswell)" wrote in message
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Am I the only one that thinks skyjacking of passenger planes is a moot
issue
until somebody figures out a way to disable the passengers before
attempting to
take over the cockpit?


Nope. That card has been played. We've seen what happens when some hothead
thinks he's gonna try.

Most red-neck testosterone-swillin' meat-eating ol' American boys are just
waiting for the opportunity to stomp the **** out of a hijacker these days.
That's cooler than rescuing kittens from a housefire.

-c


 




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