FLYING VFR IN IMC CONDITIONS

HI everyone,
80% of aircrashes has taken place coz pilot attempted to fly VFR in
prevailing IMC. kindly through in your comments so we all enhance our
awareness.

On 15 Jul 2006 06:28:29 -0700, "Sky Scrapper"
wrote in .com::

80% of aircrashes has taken place coz pilot attempted to fly VFR in
prevailing IMC.

Are you able to cite a source for that statistic?

yeah i have done a some research. but looking for more especially what
all are the associated hazards which cause this?

Larry Dighera wrote:
On 15 Jul 2006 06:28:29 -0700, "Sky Scrapper"
wrote in .com::

80% of aircrashes has taken place coz pilot attempted to fly VFR in
prevailing IMC.

Are you able to cite a source for that statistic?

Larry Dighera wrote:
On 15 Jul 2006 06:28:29 -0700, "Sky Scrapper"
wrote in .com::

80% of aircrashes has taken place coz pilot attempted to fly VFR in
prevailing IMC.

Are you able to cite a source for that statistic?

On 15 Jul 2006 07:18:47 -0700, "Sky Scrapper"
wrote in . com::

yeah i have done a some research. but looking for more especially what
all are the associated hazards which cause this?


Without a credible source to support your premise, it is futile to
discuss your allegation.

Sky Scrapper wrote:
yeah i have done a some research. but looking for more especially what
all are the associated hazards which cause this?

Larry Dighera wrote:

On 15 Jul 2006 06:28:29 -0700, "Sky Scrapper"
wrote in .com::


80% of aircrashes has taken place coz pilot attempted to fly VFR in
prevailing IMC.

Are you able to cite a source for that statistic?



Then show the data. I believe your claim is false.

Matt

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HI everyone,
80% of aircrashes has taken place coz pilot attempted to fly VFR in
prevailing IMC. kindly through in your comments so we all enhance our
awareness.

Sky Scrapper wrote:
HI everyone,
80% of aircrashes has taken place coz pilot attempted to fly VFR in
prevailing IMC.

Made up statistics. While measurement and categorization differ
from researcher to researcher most aircrashes don't even occur in
IMC (let alone by VFR). Weather in general comprises only 5%
or so of all accidents and less than 20% of the fatal accidents.


Most non-fatal accidents occur during takeoff and landing.

The issue is not that VFR-into-IMC comprises a large number
of crashes, but that VFR-into-IMC operations are more likely
to result in a crash (a fatal one at that) when they do occur.
Most of the weather related fatalities were VFR-into-IMC situations.

Source (2005 NALL REPORT, AOPA/Air Safety Foundation).

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 12:13:13 -0400, Ron Natalie wrote:

The issue is not that VFR-into-IMC comprises a large number of crashes,
but that VFR-into-IMC operations are more likely to result in a crash (a
fatal one at that) when they do occur. Most of the weather related
fatalities were VFR-into-IMC situations.

While I've no problem believing that VFR into IMC is a dangerous
situation, I've some difficulty believing that it is as likely to cause
crashes as you state. Perhaps I'm just being cynical, but I can imagine
instrument rated pilots doing quite well in the clouds w/o a clearance.

Despite what some news reporters would have the public believe, we know
that the lack of a flight plan doesn't immediately translate into flaming
wreckage falling from the sky.

At least once, I've myself experienced a case where ATC told me someone
"not being worked" was nearby while I myself was in the clouds. It's
possible that that other aircraft was VMC...but not too likely.

And I've read of other encounters here occasionally.

Keep in mind that statistics have no way to count such flights if they've
a successful outcome. So we've no way to know how frequent or infrequent
this is.

- Andrew

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 15:32:16 GMT, "Steven Barnes"
wrote in
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100% of bad grammar incidents are due to user error.

Are you as articulate in your second language?

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 13:06:42 -0400, Andrew Gideon
wrote in ::

Perhaps I'm just being cynical, but I can imagine
instrument rated pilots doing quite well in the clouds w/o a clearance.

That occurs quite often in Class G airspace.


So we've no way to know how frequent or infrequent this is.

But you'll have to agree, that is highly unlikely that 80% of VFR in
IMC flights result in disaster as the original poster apparently
believes.