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Old August 27th 06, 12:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Scott[_1_]
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Quick question for the group. When setting the torque on prop bolts (I
have bolts with nuts), if the hole for the cotter pin doesn't line up
with the castleated nut at the proper torque setting, is it better to go
tighter or looser to get the hole lined up. My gut instinct says
tighter, but....

Scott

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Old August 27th 06, 02:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
jerry wass
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Scott wrote:
Quick question for the group. When setting the torque on prop bolts (I
have bolts with nuts), if the hole for the cotter pin doesn't line up
with the castleated nut at the proper torque setting, is it better to go
tighter or looser to get the hole lined up. My gut instinct says
tighter, but....

Scott

Try various thicknesses of washers. Jerry
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Old August 27th 06, 03:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"jerry wass" wrote in message
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Scott wrote:
Quick question for the group. When setting the torque on prop bolts (I
have bolts with nuts), if the hole for the cotter pin doesn't line up
with the castleated nut at the proper torque setting, is it better to go
tighter or looser to get the hole lined up. My gut instinct says
tighter, but....

Scott

Try various thicknesses of washers. Jerry


Also shuffle the nuts around. the threads do not all start in the same
place relative the slots in the
castlleations.

Scott


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Old August 27th 06, 03:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default Torque for prop bolts

If you have a metal mini lathe, you can shave a little off the nuts to
get them to line up exactly with the cotter pin.
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Scott wrote:
Quick question for the group. When setting the torque on prop bolts (I
have bolts with nuts), if the hole for the cotter pin doesn't line up
with the castleated nut at the proper torque setting, is it better to go
tighter or looser to get the hole lined up. My gut instinct says
tighter, but....

Scott


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Old August 27th 06, 05:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Stuart & Kathryn Fields
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I heard somewhere (from a "knowledgeable source"; probably at the bar
somewhere) that it is acceptable to go to the next castellation to get the
hole lined up and to never loosen. One place to check is with the pros.
There is an engineering forum called www.eng-tips.com that has a forum on
fasteners where discussions of details about fasteners will give you a brand
new appreciation for these little thingies that we take for granted.

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"Scott" wrote in message
.. .
Quick question for the group. When setting the torque on prop bolts (I
have bolts with nuts), if the hole for the cotter pin doesn't line up
with the castleated nut at the proper torque setting, is it better to go
tighter or looser to get the hole lined up. My gut instinct says
tighter, but....

Scott



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Old August 27th 06, 05:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Kyle Boatright
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"Stuart & Kathryn Fields" wrote in message
...
I heard somewhere (from a "knowledgeable source"; probably at the bar
somewhere) that it is acceptable to go to the next castellation to get the
hole lined up and to never loosen. One place to check is with the pros.
There is an engineering forum called www.eng-tips.com that has a forum on
fasteners where discussions of details about fasteners will give you a
brand
new appreciation for these little thingies that we take for granted.

--
Stuart Fields
Experimental Helo magazine
P. O. Box 1585
Inyokern, CA 93527



I'd stick with changing washers, bolts, or nuts to achieve the spec'd torque
value. Torque limits are defined for a reason.

KB


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Old August 27th 06, 06:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Why are you using castlelated nuts? Does the airframe or prop
manufactuer require their use?

Diamond aircraft uses fiberlock nuts on the DA-20 C1 which uses a wood
prop on the IO-240 engine.

My glider club uses fiberlock nuts on the Hoffman 4 bladed wood prop of
a PA-25 Pawnee 250 used for towing gliders.

Both these aircraft are type certificated, if fiberlock are good enough
for them.....

If you check the torque on a regular basis as all wood prop
manufactuers I know of require than you whill have no problems with
loose bolts.

Robert Mudd
Moriarty, NM
A&P I.A.



Scott wrote:
Quick question for the group. When setting the torque on prop bolts (I
have bolts with nuts), if the hole for the cotter pin doesn't line up
with the castleated nut at the proper torque setting, is it better to go
tighter or looser to get the hole lined up. My gut instinct says
tighter, but....

Scott


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Old August 27th 06, 08:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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pbc76049 wrote:

Hey, never thot of swappin nuts--thanx
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Old August 27th 06, 08:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"Kyle Boatright" wrote

I'd stick with changing washers, bolts, or nuts to achieve the spec'd

torque
value. Torque limits are defined for a reason.


I am absolutely against absolute statements. g

I would have to say a little commons sense has to apply, here.

If the specified torque is 75 foot pounds, and it would line up if you went
to 76 foot pounds, go for it. Your torque wrench could be out of spec that
much, and it would still be legal.
--
Jim in NC

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Old August 28th 06, 03:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Scott wrote:
Quick question for the group. When setting the torque on prop bolts (I
have bolts with nuts), if the hole for the cotter pin doesn't line up
with the castleated nut at the proper torque setting, is it better to go
tighter or looser to get the hole lined up. My gut instinct says
tighter, but....

Scott



From chapter 7 of the AC 43.13-1B



"f. When installing a castle nut, start
alignment with the cotter pin hole at the minimum
recommended torque plus friction drag
torque.

NOTE: Do not exceed the maximum
torque plus the friction drag. If the
hole and nut castellation do not align,
change washer or nut and try again.
Exceeding the maximum recommended
torque is not recommended."

This is also what I remember from school.

Jesse M.
PP-ASEL
A&P

 




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