FA: 450 Stearman--opening bid $63k no reserve

No Reserve, this will go to the highest bidder.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...2445670513&cat
egory=26428&rd=1

No Reserve? What do you call $63,000? It is the reserve.

Dashi

"astra" wrote in message
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No Reserve, this will go to the highest bidder.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...2445670513&cat
egory=26428&rd=1

"Dashi" writes:

No Reserve?

Looks about right.

What do you call $63,000?

According to the subject line, it's the "opening bid."

It is the reserve.

In your world maybe. Not in eBay.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/buyer-reserve.html

--kyler

Different name, same effect. If it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck,
looks like a duck...

"Kyler Laird" wrote in message
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"Dashi" writes:

No Reserve?

Looks about right.

What do you call $63,000?

According to the subject line, it's the "opening bid."

It is the reserve.

In your world maybe. Not in eBay.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/buyer-reserve.html

--kyler

Start it a $5.00 and it will be a real auction, not a phony one.

Dashi

"Kyler Laird" wrote in message
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"Dashi" writes:

No Reserve?

Looks about right.

What do you call $63,000?

According to the subject line, it's the "opening bid."

It is the reserve.

In your world maybe. Not in eBay.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/buyer-reserve.html

--kyler

"Peter Gottlieb" writes:

It is the reserve.

In your world maybe. Not in eBay.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/buyer-reserve.html

Different name, same effect.

Except that it doesn't have the same effect.

If it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck,
looks like a duck...

So you're blaming the guy for correctly using a well-defined word
for the community in which he's dealing to differentiate between
two very different things? That's an especially interesting
attitude from a pilot.

Do you think it's fine when people say "the airplane stalled" for
"the engine stopped"?

I recently bought my first item on eBay. There was no reserve and
the starting bid was $750. It didn't take me too long to figure
out what that meant and I didn't whine about the use of "reserve"
to mean exactly what it means.

What would you call it? "Peter's super secret low price"?

--kyler

"Kyler Laird" wrote in message
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So you're blaming the guy for correctly using a well-defined word
for the community in which he's dealing to differentiate between
two very different things? That's an especially interesting
attitude from a pilot.

Why so extreme? Nothing to do with being a pilot.

The only real difference between a reserve and a high opening bid is that
one is frequently hidden and the other is in the open.

I recently bought my first item on eBay. There was no reserve and
the starting bid was $750. It didn't take me too long to figure
out what that meant and I didn't whine about the use of "reserve"
to mean exactly what it means.

Who's the one "whining" now? I know exactly how eBay works and when I bid
(or choose not to) I do so with a full understanding of the rules and
definitions in place. Unless I really need something (and how much "stuff"
do we *really* need?) I tend to not bid in eBay auctions with a reserve
price but have no problem with those that have a specific starting bid, even
if significant.

But when someone loudly exclaims "No Reserve!," this to me is edging too
close to inferring a no minimim, absolute auction and this just seems a tad
deceptive to me.

Don't know why you seem so bent out of shape on this. It's just my
lighthearted, informal feeling on a rather inconsequencial detail of a small
part in the greater scheme of things.

Peter

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:09:06 GMT, Kyler Laird
wrote:

"Dashi" writes:

No Reserve?

Looks about right.

What do you call $63,000?

According to the subject line, it's the "opening bid."

It is the reserve.

In your world maybe. Not in eBay.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/buyer-reserve.html

The only difference is a reserve isn't posted and a minimum bid is.
Essentially they are still the same thing. You just know one and have
to find the other.

In both cases whey will not sell below that figure.

You'll have to fix the return add due to dumb virus checkers, not spam
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair?)
www.rogerhalstead.com

--kyler

"Peter Gottlieb" writes:

But when someone loudly exclaims "No Reserve!," this to me is edging too
close to inferring a no minimim, absolute auction and this just seems a tad
deceptive to me.

Deceptive?! Let's look at the subject.
450 Stearman--opening bid $63k no reserve
How could you get to "no reserve" without getting that the opening
bid is $63k?!

Don't know why you seem so bent out of shape on this.

I think it's beyond dumb that you (and the other poster) would rip
on the guy for posting something completely correct here. What's the
deal?

Why did *you* get "so bent out of shape" about him correctly using
eBay terminology to accurately describe what he's doing?

--kyler

Roger Halstead writes:

According to the subject line, it's the "opening bid."

It is the reserve.

In your world maybe. Not in eBay.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/buyer-reserve.html

The only difference is a reserve isn't posted and a minimum bid is.

Yup. They're different.

Essentially they are still the same thing.

Except that they're different. They might have the same effect on
*you* but not on many others.

'course you could say that a Warrior and a 172 are the "same thing"
and a lot of people would probably agree with you. Doesn't mean
you're right and you'd certainly be out of line if you ripped on
someone who knew better.

You just know one and have
to find the other.

In both cases whey will not sell below that figure.

Actually reserves are a bit more flexible. At least the seller *can*
choose to sell to someone who bids below the reserve.

I still prefer not dealing with a reserve. I gather a lot of other
people do too since it's often a prominent feature of an auction.

--kyler