I've had it with Chinese tools!

"Morgans" wrote in message
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"Steve Foley" wrote


I just got a harbor freight catalog. On page 35 is a 9" Safety Wire
Twister for $15.99 It's made by 'Pittsburgh', and claims to have a
lifetime warranty. part number 45341-0CHA.

It also shows up on their website, as does a 6" pair for $9.99.

With a price like that, they will be made in Pittsburgh, China.

Quality costs. Harbor freight is not expensive. Anyone get the
connection? g

I get the connection. A lot depends on how they handle their 'lifetime
warranty'. If you end up paying freight each time you return them, it's not
worth anything.

If, on the other hand, they don't charge for shipping warranty items, you
could always buy two, and use the second while the first one is being
replaced.

They have some retail stores too. (none near me, and none in PR)

"Steve Foley" wrote

I get the connection. A lot depends on how they handle their 'lifetime
warranty'. If you end up paying freight each time you return them, it's not
worth anything.

If, on the other hand, they don't charge for shipping warranty items, you
could always buy two, and use the second while the first one is being
replaced.

To me, a tool that is loose fitting, or to tight, or just does not perform well
or breaks often isn't worth the time to have in the shop.

I want my tools to perform reliably, perfectly, the first time, every time.

It is becoming difficult to find tools that will fill those requirements,
without going to great lengths to do so.
--
Jim in NC

In article , Dan says...
ya

Chuck (I got 3 pairs of Safety wire pliers) S

Does this mean no more running with safety wire pliers?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

You can run but you have to hold the pointy end :-)

Chuck (never heard of Chineese pliers,didn't know pliers had a nationality)S


Ever notice how many tools admit they are fake? Look for the word
"forged."

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired


Glad you pointed that out sounds better then "ripped off" or "copied". :-)

Happy Thanksgiving

Chuck (often forged) S

ChuckSlusarczyk wrote:
In article , Dan says...
ya
Chuck (I got 3 pairs of Safety wire pliers) S

Does this mean no more running with safety wire pliers?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
You can run but you have to hold the pointy end :-)

Chuck (never heard of Chineese pliers,didn't know pliers had a nationality)S

Ever notice how many tools admit they are fake? Look for the word
"forged."

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired


Glad you pointed that out sounds better then "ripped off" or "copied". :-)

Happy Thanksgiving

Chuck (often forged) S

And to you

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

"Richard Riley" wrote

The only thing Harbor Freight sells that's made in the US is carbide
grinding bits.

The people that make the bits rent space from me.

Grinding "bits" ???

What kind of machine takes grinding bits?
--
Jim in NC

"Richard Riley" wrote in message
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On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 09:44:03 -0500, "Morgans"
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"Richard Riley" wrote

The only thing Harbor Freight sells that's made in the US is carbide
grinding bits.

The people that make the bits rent space from me.

Grinding "bits" ???

What kind of machine takes grinding bits?

Die grinders, milling machines, dremels, hand drills, drill presses,
lathes.

If you have a better generic name for abrasive things made of carbide
that go in machine toools, I'll be glad to use it. Bits seemed like
it got the idea across.

Carbide burrs??? Most commonly used in die grinders?? I didn't know they
kept them.

I have to stand up for their small electric hoists. I have a half dozen or
so of these light weight lifters I use in my shop. The come in 440, 660 and
880 pound models, and often go in sale from 69 to 99 dollars. I have a
couple of them that we use daily, and have so for the past two years without
any problems.

We also have a couple of their retractable air hose reels that work well. A
couple of hand trucks (or two-wheelers) the seem like a bargain after with
slimed the pneumatic tires. Several other items too.

But I would be the first to admit, you really have to examine everything you
consider from these guys. The do have a lot junk as well.

Tom

Ya wanna try that again?

Jim



"Tom Frey" wrote in message
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couple of hand trucks (or two-wheelers) the seem like a bargain after with
slimed the pneumatic tires. Several other items too.

"Richard Riley" wrote

Die grinders, milling machines, dremels, hand drills, drill presses,
lathes.

If you have a better generic name for abrasive things made of carbide
that go in machine toools, I'll be glad to use it. Bits seemed like
it got the idea across.

I realized after I wrote that, that it could be taken as condescending. Not my
intention.

After I sat and thought about it, I started to think of things that have carbide
abrasive, that I would call bits. At first I could not picture what you meant.

Lathes, with abrasives is about the only thing that I can not picture. Most of
the rest I thought about after a bit. (pun intended) g
--
Jim in NC

"Richard Riley" wrote in message
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On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 11:41:28 -0600, "Tom Frey"
wrote:


If you have a better generic name for abrasive things made of carbide
that go in machine toools, I'll be glad to use it. Bits seemed like
it got the idea across.

Carbide burrs??? Most commonly used in die grinders?? I didn't know they
kept them.

Yes, carbide burrs, HF has them and at *really* good prices. But also
end mills, drills, rotary files, cutters, etc. I think the arguement
is what to call the whole family.

Machine tools?
--
Jim in NC

"Richard Riley" wrote in message
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On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 11:41:28 -0600, "Tom Frey"
wrote:


If you have a better generic name for abrasive things made of carbide
that go in machine toools, I'll be glad to use it. Bits seemed like
it got the idea across.

Carbide burrs??? Most commonly used in die grinders?? I didn't know they
kept them.

Yes, carbide burrs, HF has them and at *really* good prices. But also
end mills, drills, rotary files, cutters, etc. I think the arguement
is what to call the whole family.

Good info, I'll have to give them a try. I wear out a couple of them and
month. I always considered burrs and rotary files to be one in the same.

Didn't realize they had drills and end mills either. I'll have to sample
some of those as well.