OT - Ebay Bidding Tactics

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message ...
For at least the last five auctions, I have been out-bid at the very
last second...literally. Today I tried putting in my bid with just 8
seconds to go in the auction, was "high bidder" for 6 seconds....and
was out-bid with literally 1 second left!

Since I was high-bidder by a good $40 (on a $200 unit) with just 6
seconds left, obviously someone -- or something -- is able to submit
bids extraordinarily fast. I've heard that there are programs that
automate the bidding process -- is that what I'm seeing here?

Jay Honeck

Jay,
I'm what they call a sniper on ebay, it is how I win most bids.
On a few occasions I have been beat by automated snipers and those
bids have been submitted in the very last second, but you still have
to be the high bidder.
the website is called auctionsniper.com they allow you to use their
services at no cost the first three times, it works extremely well.
Also don't forget that you will need a high-speed connection.

David - KGYH

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...

That's exactly the technique I used, and got beat out by TWO BUCKS.

I'd have gone up $2, given the chance. Of course, who knows how high I
would have had to bid to beat the winner...
--

Unfortunate Jay.
If you were however willing to pay more, you may have won the auction if you
reflected that willingness in your maximum bid. You do realise that it won't
just automatically use your maximum bid as the bid.
Crash Lander

JB weld is epoxy and gets brittle. Try polyester like you
use to fix a boat.

Cessna calls it aerodynamic fairing compound, auto shops
call it Bondo.


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...
| Why not get some paint and body putty [plastic] and
repair
| your face plate.
|
| I did just that, Jim. In fact, I rebuilt/replaced the
entire upper
| left corner of the faceplate with JB Weld, which is about
the greatest
| stuff ever invented.
|
| After drilling, sanding and painting, it looked PERFECT,
and worked
| great -- until the temperature dipped below zero, and Mary
forgot to be
| extra careful when switching from Com 1 to Com 2.
|
| *crack!* The repair gave way, and it's been bugging me
ever since...
| --
| Jay Honeck
| Iowa City, IA
| Pathfinder N56993
| www.AlexisParkInn.com
| "Your Aviation Destination"
|

Also, add some fiberglass cloth strips or chopped fiber.
You could even make one from scratch.


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...
| Why not get some paint and body putty [plastic] and
repair
| your face plate.
|
| I did just that, Jim. In fact, I rebuilt/replaced the
entire upper
| left corner of the faceplate with JB Weld, which is about
the greatest
| stuff ever invented.
|
| After drilling, sanding and painting, it looked PERFECT,
and worked
| great -- until the temperature dipped below zero, and Mary
forgot to be
| extra careful when switching from Com 1 to Com 2.
|
| *crack!* The repair gave way, and it's been bugging me
ever since...
| --
| Jay Honeck
| Iowa City, IA
| Pathfinder N56993
| www.AlexisParkInn.com
| "Your Aviation Destination"
|

That's exactly the technique I used, and got beat out by TWO BUCKS.

I'd have gone up $2, given the chance.

Well, then that's =not= exactly the technique you used. You underbid
yourself by at least $2. The key to using that technique is to bid your
ABSOLUTE TOP BID. You didn't do that.

Jose
--
"There are 3 secrets to the perfect landing. Unfortunately, nobody knows
what they are." - (mike).
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

I think you can get three free snipes at www.auctionsniper.com ...

"Jay Honeck" wrote in news:1164666700.353630.119520
@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

I have been trying to purchase a Narco CP-136 audio panel for almost
two years. Mine works just fine, but is cosmetically flawed, and I
need a new faceplate.

Jay Honeck wrote:
For at least the last five auctions, I have been out-bid at the very
last second...literally. Today I tried putting in my bid with just 8
seconds to go in the auction, was "high bidder" for 6 seconds....and
was out-bid with literally 1 second left!

As someone else said, auctionsniper.com is a favorite one.

As one of many collectors of old flight computers on eBay, I cannot bid
ahead of time since that alerts others to my interest, especially if
it's misspelled or some other secret find.

So I used to wait up late at night or have to run home, two windows
open to bid at the last second. My wife hated it. Now I just put in
my highest bid, and let the sniper site bid for me. It only failed me
once out of hundreds of auctions, when an auction ended on the hour and
I didn't reset the snipe time to a little bit longer to compensate for
eBay's busy computers.

Kev

Sniping takes advantage of lazy bidders. The basic premise is that people
don't really put in their maximum bid. They tend to bid more conservatively
until they see that they are not the highest bidder. Then determination
takes hold and they put in a higher bid. Sniping is very simply a technique
to fool these potentially high (but initially conservative) bidders into
thinking that they have it won until it's too late for them to counter. This
allows the snipers to win the bid with a lower amount than if everyone put
in their high bids in the first place.

So, it's not just about winning. It's about winning for a lesser dollar
amount.

If you buy a lot on eBay, then it might be worth some money to pay a service
to snipe for you. Or, you can do it for free by sniping manually. Just wait
until the last few seconds and put in your highest bid (your real highest
bid).

I don't buy a lot and I don't have time to play the games. When I bid, I put
in the real amount that I would be willing to pay. If someone outbids me
(whether at the last second or not), I want to be comfortable that I was not
willing to pay anymore to win it. If someone wants to play the game, let
them. If they outbid me at the last second, so what? They apparently would
have outbid me anyway.

If you want to save a few pennies, then snipe. Otherwise, just put in your
max bid, use your time for something more valuable, and be happy!

--
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Travis
Lake N3094P
PWK

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Jay Honeck wrote:
[ebay sniping story snipped]

I've used an online sniper once. It didn't make any difference in my
case because I didn't bid enough. Google can put you in touch with
several either online or local ones most of which have free trial for
some number of auctions.

My strategy is to decide what I'm willing to pay and make that my
maximum bid. Then ebay will automatically bid up until your max is
reached OR you win at whatever level is required to win. This beats the
snipers without enticing me to bid "Just $5 more" until I'm spending
more than I should. Just how I do it...

John Stevens
PP-ASEL

"Milen Lazarov" wrote in message ...
A detail that has always worked for me - when setting your maximum bid,
set it to something like $101 instead of just a round number, a couple of
times that allowed me to be the winner by just a dollar or so. :-)

-Milen

The odd bid number has worked for me too.
But I have even gone as far as bidding $101.01 and you
would be surprised on how often that extra cent has pushed
beyond the last whole number bid.

David

Jay doesn't really have a choice--it's preordained--he HAS to snipe.
Remember that he designed, built, and still operates the "Mighty Grape".
;-))

Peter

BTW, I'm saving all this new-found info for the next time that I bid on
eBay.

Sniping takes advantage of lazy bidders. The basic premise is that people
don't really put in their maximum bid. They tend to bid more
conservatively
until they see that they are not the highest bidder. Then determination
takes hold and they put in a higher bid. Sniping is very simply a
technique
to fool these potentially high (but initially conservative) bidders into
thinking that they have it won until it's too late for them to counter.
This
allows the snipers to win the bid with a lower amount than if everyone put
in their high bids in the first place.

So, it's not just about winning. It's about winning for a lesser dollar
amount.

If you buy a lot on eBay, then it might be worth some money to pay a
service
to snipe for you. Or, you can do it for free by sniping manually. Just
wait
until the last few seconds and put in your highest bid (your real highest
bid).

I don't buy a lot and I don't have time to play the games. When I bid, I
put
in the real amount that I would be willing to pay. If someone outbids me
(whether at the last second or not), I want to be comfortable that I was
not
willing to pay anymore to win it. If someone wants to play the game, let
them. If they outbid me at the last second, so what? They apparently would
have outbid me anyway.

If you want to save a few pennies, then snipe. Otherwise, just put in your
max bid, use your time for something more valuable, and be happy!

--
-------------------------------
Travis
Lake N3094P
PWK

wrote in message
ups.com...

Jay Honeck wrote:
[ebay sniping story snipped]

I've used an online sniper once. It didn't make any difference in my
case because I didn't bid enough. Google can put you in touch with
several either online or local ones most of which have free trial for
some number of auctions.

My strategy is to decide what I'm willing to pay and make that my
maximum bid. Then ebay will automatically bid up until your max is
reached OR you win at whatever level is required to win. This beats the
snipers without enticing me to bid "Just $5 more" until I'm spending
more than I should. Just how I do it...

John Stevens
PP-ASEL