TSA Follies

wrote:
Jay Beckman wrote:
Just stay away from the Group W bench and you'll be fine...

Jay, either I don't get that, or you made a political comment. ;)
Maybe it had something to do with me flying to Texas?

Ah youth ;-) Viet Nam era protest song. Look halfway down the
lyrics for Arlo Guthrie's "Alice's Restaurant" to the section about the
Draft and the Group W bench:

http://www.arlo.net/resources/lyrics/alices.shtml

Also read its history at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice's_Restaurant

At one time, most of us had all the lyrics memorized...
Best, Kev

Kev wrote:

Ah youth ;-) Viet Nam era protest song. Look halfway down the
lyrics for Arlo Guthrie's "Alice's Restaurant" to the section about the
Draft and the Group W bench:

http://www.arlo.net/resources/lyrics/alices.shtml

Also read its history at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice's_Restaurant

At one time, most of us had all the lyrics memorized...
Best, Kev

Ah, youth, my foot. I was in the military during that shindig (no
action, just doin' my time..)
I just didn't remember all the words, though of course I DO remember
the song.

wrote:
Kev wrote:

Ah youth ;-) Viet Nam era protest song. [blah blah]

Ah, youth, my foot. I was in the military during that shindig (no
[now remembers the song]

Sorry. Change that to "Ah, old age"...

;-)

("Kev" wrote)
Also read its history at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice's_Restaurant

At one time, most of us had all the lyrics memorized...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_7C0QGkiVo
The song at YouTube - Thank you, Arlo.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=13962 79221
The song at My Space - Thank you, Arlo.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5028273
NPR interview with Arlo Guthrie Listen

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=13972 91583
Motorcycle Song - one I've always liked :-)


Mont
Black sold Arlo Guthrie a pair of County Seat jeans when he was in Mpls for
a concert, back in '81/'82. She said he was a great guy - very nice.

"Jay Beckman" wrote in message
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"Steve Foley" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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In a room full of guys with guns, who have to depend on each other, I
can't imagine much that would be scarier than someone who sits alone
mumbling "Kill, kill, kill".

But they wouldn't take him cuz he's a litterbug

Just stay away from the Group W bench and you'll be fine...

:O)
You're our boy!!

Seems the military is finally getting more of the pie.

john smith wrote:

During the Thanksgiving weekend travel rush, airline passengers were
forbidden to carry pies in their hand luggage. Transportation Security
Administration officers confiscated the pies from passengers and
distributed them to troops traveling during the holiday weekend.

"Kev" wrote in news:1165446439.197794.257260
@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:


Steve Foley wrote:

But I just installed 'Call to Duty 3'. It's just like the real thing!!!!

HA !!!

What a stupid statement !!! Everyone knows civilians can't learn to
fire a gun in simulation !!! Only real life drill instructors can
teach you how to pull a trigger !!!

You must be a troll, and I'm putting you on a list. Yeah, that's
right. You heard me. And your mother too... because she once said
something nice about you.

Nonono. You missed the point entirely.

Anyone can learn to fire a gun using "Call to Duty" if they have the proper
controller.

However, there are real-life sensations, such as intense fear for one's
life, bugs stinging your nose when you are hiding in the bushes 6 inches
from the enemy who is hunting for your, and the realization that if you
actually do fire your gun you are more likely to give away your position
and be "lit up" by the other 7 enemies who are looking for you too.

These sensations cannot be accurately duplicated in a computer game.

Perhaps they are simulated better in a full-motion simulator, such as
Paintball.

Just because the pie filling could be explosive doesn't mean it's harmful to
ingest.

It is only harmful on airplanes. Most especially if the ingester attempts to
cover her scent with a match.

john smith wrote in news:3pCdh.3552$Ye5.1611
@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com:

The following Letter to the Editor appeared in the Sunday, December 3,
2006 COLUMBUS DISPATCH. It relates to procedures at the Port Columbus
International Airport in Columbus Ohio (KCMH)

Agency doesn’t make air travelers feel safer
snip

Judah wrote:
Nonono. You missed the point entirely.

Anyone can learn to fire a gun using "Call to Duty" if they have the proper
controller.

However, there are real-life sensations, such as intense fear for one's
life, bugs stinging your nose when you are hiding in the bushes [..]
These sensations cannot be accurately duplicated in a computer game.

But those sensations can't be accurately duplicated in any kind of
training, sim or not They used to fire live rounds over your head
in training, but you knew that was fake. Then they used those laser
harnesses, but that's even faker. The only way you got the real-life
sensation is when someone _really_ was trying to kill you.

Now, I'd have to agree that fear of death is one training aspect of
flying that is hard to duplicate in a sim. But perhaps if an
electrical shock was attached to the AOA value, you'd get better
training than even the death factor ;-) After all, fear alone doesn't
make you a better pilot. Learning to avoid deadly situations does.

Cheers, Kev

Kev writes:

Now, I'd have to agree that fear of death is one training aspect of
flying that is hard to duplicate in a sim. But perhaps if an
electrical shock was attached to the AOA value, you'd get better
training than even the death factor ;-) After all, fear alone doesn't
make you a better pilot. Learning to avoid deadly situations does.

Being terrified can interfere with reasoning. And by the time a
person is that scared, he's already in serious trouble. I'm sure that
many accident pilots are terrified in the final few seconds before
they hit the ground, but that doesn't make them any more able to save
themselves, as the terror occurs too late and could easily make them
irrational, anyway.

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