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Old December 16th 06, 05:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Christopher Campbell" wrote in message
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Non-military airspace?


That implies there is something called "military airspace". Is there?



Not a restricted area?


So "civil airspace" is all airspace outside of a Restricted Area?



Not Class F?


Civil aircraft can operate in ICAO Class F airspace.


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Old December 16th 06, 05:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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These vehicles are not "uncrewed." They have a crew, even if it remains on
the ground. And that crew has the same liability as any other crew.


No, they only have the same liability (if that) in court. They have far
less liability to the laws of physics.

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Old December 17th 06, 11:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 09:09:18 -0800, Jose wrote
(in article ):

These vehicles are not "uncrewed." They have a crew, even if it remains on
the ground. And that crew has the same liability as any other crew.


No, they only have the same liability (if that) in court. They have far
less liability to the laws of physics.


Maybe what we need is a requirement that all drone operators have to sit in
front of a spring-loaded spear. If their drone hits another aircraft for any
reason, then the spear is released into the operator's chest.

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Old December 17th 06, 11:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Christopher Campbell" wrote in message
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Maybe what we need is a requirement that all drone operators have to sit
in
front of a spring-loaded spear. If their drone hits another aircraft for
any
reason, then the spear is released into the operator's chest.


Drones don't have operators.


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Old December 18th 06, 12:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Steven P. McNicoll writes:

Drones don't have operators.


Put the spear in front of the engineers who designed it.

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Old December 18th 06, 01:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article t,
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

Drones don't have operators.


The drone doesn't just launch itself.

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Old December 18th 06, 10:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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The drone doesn't just launch itself.


Correct.



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Old December 19th 06, 12:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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Some UAVs have been allowed to perform short experimental flights in
civil airspace, but only under very strict conditions.


What is "civil airspace"?


I would think NOT military.

Danny Deger


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Old December 19th 06, 01:04 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Danny Deger" wrote in message
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What is "civil airspace"?


I would think NOT military.


That would seem logical. Any idea where such airspace can be found?


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Old December 20th 06, 08:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Danny Deger" wrote in message
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What is "civil airspace"?


I would think NOT military.


That would seem logical. Any idea where such airspace can be found?


Most military bases have military airspace around them for training. The
test centers all have large military airspace as does the places that have
large military exercises, e.g. Red Flag. I assume most UAV flying in the
US is done in these airspaces.

Danny


 




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