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Old December 21st 06, 02:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gig 601XL Builder
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PILOT CHARGED WITH MANSLAUGHTER AFTER FATAL CRASH
(http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#194044)
A 30-year-old man who was flying a 1972 Bellanca Super Viking when it
crashed into a pond in northeastern Oklahoma on Saturday night,
killing all three passengers, has been charged with three counts of
manslaughter. Thomas Brent Caldwell, 30, of Pryor, Okla., apparently
never had a pilot certificate and was drinking at the time of the
accident, authorities said. Killed in the crash were Mariano Carlos,
15, of Pryor; and Eduardo Robles, 20, and Campos Gonzalez, 33, both
from Mexico. Investigators said it appears the engine was not
producing power when the airplane hit the water, and the passengers
appear to have drowned.


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Old December 21st 06, 03:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Kingfish
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
PILOT CHARGED WITH MANSLAUGHTER AFTER FATAL CRASH
(http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#194044)
A 30-year-old man who was flying a 1972 Bellanca Super Viking when it
crashed into a pond in northeastern Oklahoma on Saturday night,
killing all three passengers, has been charged with three counts of
manslaughter. Thomas Brent Caldwell, 30, of Pryor, Okla., apparently
never had a pilot certificate and was drinking at the time of the
accident, authorities said. Killed in the crash were Mariano Carlos,
15, of Pryor; and Eduardo Robles, 20, and Campos Gonzalez, 33, both
from Mexico. Investigators said it appears the engine was not
producing power when the airplane hit the water, and the passengers
appear to have drowned.


I just saw this on AvWeb and it made me sick. You have to wonder how
can one individual harness enough stupidity to fly a plane without a
license, with passengers, while sh!tfaced. My guess is that OK law
doesn't allow for a murder charge due to the circumstances - I think
it's warranted here. JMHO.

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Old December 21st 06, 04:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Default Pilot charged with Manslaughter

A license is not required to fly or own an airplane. It is
required to legally fly an airplane. Training is required
to get the license.
How much dope was in the airplane?



"Kingfish" wrote in message
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|
| Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
| PILOT CHARGED WITH MANSLAUGHTER AFTER FATAL CRASH
|
(http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#194044)
| A 30-year-old man who was flying a 1972 Bellanca Super
Viking when it
| crashed into a pond in northeastern Oklahoma on Saturday
night,
| killing all three passengers, has been charged with
three counts of
| manslaughter. Thomas Brent Caldwell, 30, of Pryor,
Okla., apparently
| never had a pilot certificate and was drinking at the
time of the
| accident, authorities said. Killed in the crash were
Mariano Carlos,
| 15, of Pryor; and Eduardo Robles, 20, and Campos
Gonzalez, 33, both
| from Mexico. Investigators said it appears the engine
was not
| producing power when the airplane hit the water, and the
passengers
| appear to have drowned.
|
| I just saw this on AvWeb and it made me sick. You have to
wonder how
| can one individual harness enough stupidity to fly a plane
without a
| license, with passengers, while sh!tfaced. My guess is
that OK law
| doesn't allow for a murder charge due to the
circumstances - I think
| it's warranted here. JMHO.
|


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Old December 21st 06, 05:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Kingfish
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Jim Macklin wrote:
A license is not required to fly or own an airplane. It is
required to legally fly an airplane. Training is required
to get the license.
How much dope was in the airplane?


I'd say just the one in the left seat

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Old December 21st 06, 05:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Christopher Campbell[_1_]
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On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 06:41:18 -0800, Gig 601XL Builder wrote
(in article ):

PILOT CHARGED WITH MANSLAUGHTER AFTER FATAL CRASH


How terribly unfortunate.

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Old December 21st 06, 05:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ross
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Kingfish wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

PILOT CHARGED WITH MANSLAUGHTER AFTER FATAL CRASH
(http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#194044)
A 30-year-old man who was flying a 1972 Bellanca Super Viking when it
crashed into a pond in northeastern Oklahoma on Saturday night,
killing all three passengers, has been charged with three counts of
manslaughter. Thomas Brent Caldwell, 30, of Pryor, Okla., apparently
never had a pilot certificate and was drinking at the time of the
accident, authorities said. Killed in the crash were Mariano Carlos,
15, of Pryor; and Eduardo Robles, 20, and Campos Gonzalez, 33, both
from Mexico. Investigators said it appears the engine was not
producing power when the airplane hit the water, and the passengers
appear to have drowned.



I just saw this on AvWeb and it made me sick. You have to wonder how
can one individual harness enough stupidity to fly a plane without a
license, with passengers, while sh!tfaced. My guess is that OK law
doesn't allow for a murder charge due to the circumstances - I think
it's warranted here. JMHO.


Do you know of any state that had a law that drunk drivers/flyers should
be charged with murder. IMO it should be a capital crime. Just last
Sunday and Fort Worth, TX policeman helping a motorist was killed by a
drunk driver going too fast.

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI
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Old December 21st 06, 05:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Christopher Campbell" wrote in message
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On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 06:41:18 -0800, Gig 601XL Builder wrote
(in article ):

PILOT CHARGED WITH MANSLAUGHTER AFTER FATAL CRASH


How terribly unfortunate.


Unfortunate for who? If you mean the passengers (assuming they A. Didn't
know he didn't have a license and B. Didn't know he was drunk) or all the
legally licensed, safely aviators out there who have what we do lessened
somewhat in the eyes of the general public then I agree.

If you mean for that asshole then well...


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Old December 21st 06, 06:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
PILOT CHARGED WITH MANSLAUGHTER AFTER FATAL CRASH
(http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#194044)
A 30-year-old man who was flying a 1972 Bellanca Super Viking when it
crashed into a pond in northeastern Oklahoma on Saturday night,
killing all three passengers, has been charged with three counts of
manslaughter. Thomas Brent Caldwell, 30, of Pryor, Okla., apparently
never had a pilot certificate and was drinking at the time of the
accident, authorities said. Killed in the crash were Mariano Carlos,
15, of Pryor; and Eduardo Robles, 20, and Campos Gonzalez, 33, both
from Mexico. Investigators said it appears the engine was not
producing power when the airplane hit the water, and the passengers
appear to have drowned.


By pilot I assume you are talking about the guy who was flying the
plane? There was no pilot on board according to the NTSB.

-Robert

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Old December 21st 06, 06:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
Investigators said it appears the engine was not
producing power when the airplane hit the water, and the passengers
appear to have drowned.


He crashed the plane into the water and let the passengers drown!
Perhaps he should ask Ted Kennedy for a referal for a good attorney.

-Robert

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Old December 21st 06, 07:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gig 601XL Builder
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
PILOT CHARGED WITH MANSLAUGHTER AFTER FATAL CRASH
(http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#194044)
A 30-year-old man who was flying a 1972 Bellanca Super Viking when it
crashed into a pond in northeastern Oklahoma on Saturday night,
killing all three passengers, has been charged with three counts of
manslaughter. Thomas Brent Caldwell, 30, of Pryor, Okla., apparently
never had a pilot certificate and was drinking at the time of the
accident, authorities said. Killed in the crash were Mariano Carlos,
15, of Pryor; and Eduardo Robles, 20, and Campos Gonzalez, 33, both
from Mexico. Investigators said it appears the engine was not
producing power when the airplane hit the water, and the passengers
appear to have drowned.


By pilot I assume you are talking about the guy who was flying the
plane? There was no pilot on board according to the NTSB.

-Robert


You may assume AVWEB was talking about that.


 




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